Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2012 September 21

= September 21 =

102 b panasonic user manual instructions
102 b panasonic user manual instructions — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.82.129.114 (talk) 02:28, 21 September 2012 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Symbol move vote.svg|20px]] This page is for questions about the Articles for creation process. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what the Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try  for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps. Or try a Google search. Huon (talk) 02:52, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Review of User:Djorgovski/sandbox
Hi, I edited my entry, adding the references, and clicked on the link to resubmit. However, that simply opens a new, blank page to edit. How do I get to have my new, improved draft edited and approved, as it now stands in my sandbox? It is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Djorgovski/sandbox

Thank you. S. G. Djorgovski S. G. Djorgovski 04:31, 21 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I beleive it does open a new page with the submit template added to it. I believe you simply have to save the page, and it will be submitted. However, I have moved your article to Articles for creation and resubmitted it.  I have left a link in your sandbox.  Please edit your article at the new location.  Your sandbox is now free for any other use you care to make of it.  Thanks.  --  :- ) Don  13:40, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Sumed International (UK) Ltd
Hi How do I change Wikipedia talk articles title to Sumed International (UK) Ltd without the Wikipedia Talk bit in front Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Sumed International (UK) Ltd

SumedMarketing (talk) 13:41, 21 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Simply move "Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Sumed International (UK) Ltd" to Article space with the name of "Sumed International (UK) Ltd". Doing so will move the article into Main space.  You will also need to delete all of the AfC templates. Your article will then be without the protection of AfC and subject to immediate deletion since it has not been approved.  --  :- ) Don  13:48, 21 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I believe you cannot move the article yet because your account isn't autoconfirmed. Also, technically, a lack of approval on its own is not grounds for deletion, but a lack of notability, shown by a lack of significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject such as newspaper articles, is, as is being spam. See also our guidelines on advertisement masquerading as articles, in particular mission statements, and conflicts of interest. Huon (talk) 14:29, 21 September 2012 (UTC)


 * As others have said, moving the article as it currently stands into mainspace without review is probably a bad idea. Anyone can come along and request that it gets deleted, and then you'll have to (usually) wait a week while everyone decides to keep or destroy your article, often with people throwing unfamiliar arguments at you as to why it should be deleted. In fact, as your username matches the article, you could even find yourself blocked from Wikipedia due to having an unsuitable username. Best not go there! -- Ritchie333 (talk)  (cont)   15:19, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

How to submit "scanned" newspaper articles for attribution
I have been trying to make a submission for several months now. The problem is this person (historical figure) was in the news media primiarily in the 1980s and early 1990s, prior to when many articles were posted online. Therefore, I have scanned the articles and would like to include them with my submission. How would I foward these to a wikipedia editor? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cefaan (talk • contribs) 15:52, 21 September 2012 (UTC)


 * While having online scans helps, you don't actually need them to pass an article. Provided you cite the news articles properly (see cite news for further information), and they are sufficient to verify notability of the article's subject, the article should pass. There is absolutely no requirement whatsoever that a reference must be easy or quick to find. -- Ritchie333 (talk)  (cont)   15:56, 21 September 2012 (UTC)


 * (ec)No you do not do that, it would be a copyright violation if you included a scanned image of the newspaper in your article. Just reference the newspaper article the same way you cite any other source. The template provides an easy "form" into which you just add the necessary details. Roger (talk) 15:59, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * You can still scan small sections of a newspaper under fair use - see File:It's The Sun Wot Won It.jpg for an infamous example, and I have made extensive use of newspaper cuttings in www.vandergraafgenerator.co.uk to get Van der Graaf Generator ready to be reviewed as a good article. -- Ritchie333 (talk)  (cont)   16:03, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Ritchie333 please do not dilute the advice to a newbie that adding scans of copyrighted material is generally not acceptable. The fair use exception is a fairly sophisticated concept and not at all relevant in this specific case. Roger (talk) 18:05, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, are you implying the above editor is too dumb to understand something? That's not particularly civil. -- Ritchie333 (talk)  (cont)   06:37, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Review of User:Mukesh1997/sandbox
Shantanu Prakash Shantanu Prakash is an Indian entrepreneur. He currently serves as the chairman and managing director of Educomp Solutions Limited, after acquiring a MBA degree from Indian Institute of Management, Ahmedabad. He is also Co-founder and chairman of Lakshya Digital Pvt. Ltd. Contents 1.	Early life 2.	Career 3.	Honours and Award 4.	References 5.	External Links

Early life Shantanu Prakash was born in Raurkela, Oddisa. His father was in SAIL and mother was a school teacher. After class 10, family shifted to Delhi and he enrolled in Delhi Public School and later joined Shri Ram College of Commerce where he graduated with a B.Com in 1986. His early years were influenced by voracious book reading. His father used to buy him a book in travelling. Career Shantanu Prakash, after completing his Master’s from IIM Ahmedabad in 1988, did not go for placements. With his friends and partners from the event management business (at SRCC he stared a business with friends to organize events) launched a company focused on education. The idea was to set up computer lab for schools. In two years company made turnover of 40-50 millions. In 1994, Mr. Prakash founded Educomp Solutions Limited with a vision to transform the teaching-learning process through the use of technology. Today Educomp is the India’s largest education company with the market capitalization of over US $ 1.5 billion. He founded Edumatics Corporation USA in 2001. Shantanu is also the Founder and Managing Trustee of the Learning Leadership Foundation (LLF), an organization dedicated to bringing best practices in education to under-resourced schools. He is also the Co-founder and Chairman of Lakshya Digital Pvt. Ltd.- a pioneering game development studio, based out of New Delhi, India. Honours and Awards •	National Talent Search Scholarship •	Entrepreneur of the year -2012

References 2.	LinkedIn 3.	Educomp Solution Ltd.com 4.	Bloomberg Businessweek External Links •	Shantanu Prakash at Educomp Solutions Ltd. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mukesh1997 (talk • contribs) 18:00, 21 September 2012 (UTC)


 * This seems like a copy of your sandbox, not like a question. The draft definitely needs better sources. Firstly, these are so hard to identify that they're almost useless. Firstly, Bloomberg Businessweek covers lots of topics, most of which are unrelated to Shantanu Prakash. Where among Businessweek can I find the relevant information? An external link to the specific web page would be a great help. Or what precisely is "Stay Hungry Stay Foolish"? A book? Published when, by what publisher, what's the ISBN? Or a newspaper article? From what newspaper, published when? Secondly, many of the sources, such as LinkedIn or Shantanu Prakash's own company, are not reliable in the first place. Thirdly, you should use inline citations and footnotes to clarify which source supports which of the draft's statements. For example, which source details the "ideological difference among partners"? Which source discusses Prakash's birthplace? Does that source draw some connection between Prakash and the steel plant? If so, what's the connection? If not, why mention the steel plant at all? Huon (talk) 19:31, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/John O&
Hello, For the past year and a half, I've been working on Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/John O'Callaghan. I have added two references, yet the article isn't confirmed by Wikipedia, therefore won't publish. How can this be resulted, so it will publish? — Preceding unsigned comment added by LaRayeeee (talk • contribs) 18:21, 21 September 2012 (UTC)


 * As the reviewers said, the problem is the lack of significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Such coverage is necessary both to establish O'Callaghan's notability and to allow our readers to verify the article's content. The band's website is not independent (and probably not reliable either); the same holds for the photographer's website. AllMusic's reliability is debatable and it is independent, but it doesn't cover O'Callaghan in any detail anyway. Two of the five sources given don't even mention O'callaghan. It seems his band is notable, but notability is not inherited. My suggestion would be to look for newspaper articles that cover O'Callaghan in some detail. Huon (talk) 19:31, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Woodbridge Strikers 98 Girls
hey i made an atricle that i really would like to be put on the website its been two days how many more — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.233.139.106 (talk) 21:13, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Reviewed. --  :- ) Don 21:39, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Review of User:Shannaheight/sandbox
Didn't read all the rules, just skimmed them, but I am the source of the band icecreaminnovember and now icecreamindecember.

Shannaheight (talk) 23:57, 21 September 2012 (UTC)Shannaheight


 * Unfortunately Wikipedia requires published sources, not personal experiences. Put bluntly, If I claimed to be the source for conflicting information, how could our readers verify who is right? Furthermore, significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject is required to establish its notability (see also WP:MUSIC for more specific notability guidelines). Huon (talk) 00:06, 22 September 2012 (UTC)