Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2013 April 15

= April 15 =

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Keshav R. Murugesh
I have re submitted the article can you let me know when can you approve them? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vivekk127 (talk • contribs) 06:36, 15 April 2013 (UTC)


 * The average time for a submission to be reviewed tends to be about three weeks. The average time for a submission to be approved tends to be much longer. A large proportion of submissions are never approved because the submission is never improved to the point where it demonstrates the notability of the subject - see WP:42 for more information on this. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:51, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Michael Trieb
I Have submited the articles Michael Trieb and ISA Internationales Stadtbauatelier about two weeks ago. As I still did not get any respond, I would like to know if anything went wrong with the submission. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leachim 1 (talk • contribs) 07:38, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Your article is not currently queued for submission. At the grey "draft" box at the top of the article is a line stating "If this submission is ready to be reviewed, click here." Click on the link and it will be submitted for review. However, before you do that, you will need to provide some independent references that verify that Trieb is notable, as at the moment you have only cited works by him, not about him. Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   15:27, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Hellmilton Roller Ghouls Stuck.
I have been asked to retrieve more references. I already have 7. Because this league is so small, and hasn't been around for that long, there are only a small number of relevant references- especially because many news articles actually get the facts wrong (not being familiar with roller derby in NZ). What now? St117 (talk) 09:25, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I think the problem is not so much with the number of references, as with the kind of references you need. You need to gather information from independent and reliable sources, such as the news articles. You should avoid referencing blogs, as anyone can create a blog and write whatever they like in it. I'll ask the reviewer to comment here as they may have more of an idea what's required. Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   15:39, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Ritchie333 is completely right. I as decliner (wikignome is my alternative public account) think that this article has a chance, but my general golden rule is that there are at least 3 really good sources for an article to get accepted. Sadly some were missed, although I still believe that these can be found. mabdul 18:11, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Review of User:Melbourne3163/sandbox
Hello, I have created a currently pending article for an Australian radio broadcaster called 'Darren James'. Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Darren James

As there is already an existing article for a different person with the same name, I put a message at the top of my article - I now realise that I need to have my article retitled to something like "Darren James (broadcaster)" but cannot see how to do that. Would greatly appreciate some advice please. Thanks Melbourne3163 (talk) 09:51, 15 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Done! The draft is now at WT:Articles for creation/Darren James (broadcaster), I'll review it now. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:42, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Blouse by Mylesport,
New blouse I had for 40 years. Would like to know who made it and it's value. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by MsMLLee (talk • contribs) 15:08, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
 * This page is for questions about AfC submissions. Please use the reference desk for your question. I don't understand how you can have something "new" that's been in your possession for 40 years either. Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   15:25, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Name of author in article title spelt wrongly
Hi, I've just noticed that the name of the author in my article for creation Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Dee Schulman is spelt wrongly. It should be Dee Shulman without the c. Is there a way that I can change this? Maria Brannan (talk) 15:27, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
 * There is already an submission for that subject - see Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Dee Shulman. I have marked your submission accordingly. Currently, the other submission is declined due to insufficient coverage in reliable sources, which is something you will need to fix before resubmitting. If you want to remove your misspelled draft, put   at the top of it.  Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   15:33, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Apprise Software
I had previously submitted Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Apprise_Software and it was rejected on the basis of not achieving notability. I have a few sources that I think might achieve this, but I am not really sure how to use these with the submissions since everything I have on there is already sourced. How should I proceed?

Beverage World mentions:

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/idealmedia/bw0210/index.php?startid=50

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/idealmedia/bw0208/index.php?startid=65

ET News (Korean):

http://www.etnews.com/news/computing/informatization/2530785_1475.html

Interview with Digital Times (Korean):

http://www.dt.co.kr/contents.html?article_no=2012112002011475660001

Supply Chain Council - Award

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20111103007036/en/Supply-Chain-Council-Announces-2011-Asia-Oceania

Thank you,

Bruestle2 (talk) 17:26, 15 April 2013 (UTC)Bruestle2


 * The draft may cite something, but its current sources are press releases, not reliable sources. Similarly, the Businesswire source you give here is another press release, and the second Beverage World source is just a regurgiated press release too. The first Beverage World source is an interview with an Apprise Software executive; that's not quite as independent a source as we'd like. I haven't checked the Korean sources. You should get rid of all the press releases and instead base the article on what reliable, independent sources such as newspaper articles or articles in reputable trade magazines have to say about the company. Huon (talk) 20:22, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Frederick Gardner Clapp
How do I add a photograph? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fwchistory (talk • contribs) 18:49, 15 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Who took the photograph? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:29, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Review of User:Peaanne&
May I change the name of the article to Searching in the Information Age?--Information Literacy (talk) 19:03, 15 April 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peaanne& (talk • contribs) 18:59, 15 April 2013 (UTC) --Information Literacy (talk) 19:01, 15 April 2013 (UTC)


 * The reviewer will choose a suitable name for the article submission if and when it is accepted. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:30, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Humanistic Mormonism
If I would like to quote a sentence or something of that nature from a website is that allowed or does it always need to be rewritten?

Thanks!

(SamHarris1982 (talk) 21:23, 15 April 2013 (UTC)) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Humanistic_Mormonism


 * Short quotes with attribution ("On its website, the organization says: This is our opinion.") would be acceptable, but third-party sources are always preferable. Huon (talk) 21:51, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Class project
Dear friends at Wikipedia,

This semester I have been piloting a research paper class at Arizona Western College that has centered around researching and posting an article in Wikipedia. We chose as a model the article on Central Park. Since this is a group project, we started working on easy-to-research material such as Park activities. Our goal was to put part of the article on Wikipedia so that we could work together to edit what we had and add and trim the article on our own schedules so that by the end of the semester we would have a first-class finished product.

What I did not anticipate was the bureaucratic nightmare that getting an article posted has become. We waited for nearly 3 weeks to find out that our article was turned down not because we violated any policy, not because we included copyright material, but because we tried to provide an encyclopedic list of the activities that take place in the park. We received a single sentence containing a misspelling to explain the rejection.

Throughout the process of creation, we have been assured by everything in Wikipedia that articles did not have to be perfect to be put up, that posting an article was not the end of the process, but was rather the beginning of a process. To suddenly find out that what we've been told is not in fact reality is very disappointing and disturbing. Right now, when I report back to the English faculty at the college, I will have to discourage them from undertaking such a program. I have here listed the article in question. I would appreciate feedback if possible

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/West Wetlands Park Yuma, Arizona

ProfDavis (talk) 22:00, 15 April 2013 (UTC) ProfDavis


 * The Articles for Creation space is not really suitable for class projects because timing is so unpredictable here. We are currently experiencing a severe backlog. Wikipedia actually has a very comprehensive support system for projects such as yours at School and university projects. Your project will receive the necessary support there and you will be able to set the pace and scheduling - here at AFC, as with most of Wikipedia, there are no deadlines.
 * By the way, being declined the first time at AFC is quite normal, it's no reason to despair - many drafts go through three or four declines before they are approved. However if you migrate your draft to the Schools and University projects you won't need to worry about that. It's a real pity you didn't ask us for advice before you began your project, we could have pointed you to the correct Project space right from the start. (BTW - I don't see a spelling error in the decline message.) Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 22:22, 15 April 2013 (UTC)


 * A couple of notes - first, I've mentioned these issues at User talk:Sage Ross (WMF). Second, and rather tangentially, there was indeed a spelling mistake in a comment further explaining the decline of the submission - that comment was from a volunteer editor whose first language is German (and without whom the backlog would be even more huge than it is). --Demiurge1000 (talk) 03:28, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Ach, I went ahead and created the page. Needs rather a lot of work to make it fit Wikipedia norms, but go for it. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 04:45, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Did you do a copy/paste? The draft still exists too. This needs to be cleaned up - perhaps a histmerge? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:41, 16 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, I did do a copy/paste. Sorry!  I'm not sure I know how to do a histmerge.  Hmm.  --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 16:31, 16 April 2013 (UTC)


 * A histmerge requires an admin's intervention; Master of Puppets did the work. Fixed now. Huon (talk) 17:08, 16 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks! (And I'm an admin, albeit not one who knows how to do a histmerge...) --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 17:10, 16 April 2013 (UTC)