Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2013 August 20

= August 20 =

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Collaborative Evaluation
How an article created and accepted under a user name can be published under another user name to avoid conflict of interest? Connie Walker — Preceding unsigned comment added by Conniewalkeregea (talk • contribs) 02:51, 20 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I think you are misunderstanding the concept of "conflict of interest". If you have a COI in relation to the subject of an article it does not matter at all what username you use, the COI still exists.
 * The conflict of interest exists because of who you are and the fact that there is a relationship between yourself and the article subject (for example an article about your employer or about a book you wrote). Changing your username will not make the COI go away.
 * An article is never "published under a username" - only drafts may associated with a particular user. Once a draft has been move into mainspace it is no longer associated with your username (but the COI will still exist). Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:14, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Công ty cổ phần Cơ điện tử ASO
1. Giới thiệu

Công ty cổ phần Cơ điện tử ASO hoạt động trong lĩnh vực cơ điện tử phục vụ quá trình tự động hóa xí nghiệp công nghiệp. Công ty đã đầu tư xây dựng cơ sở sản xuất và văn phòng làm việc trên diện tích 7000m2 Tại Tân Quang - TX Sông Công – Thái Nguyên.

Công ty có đội ngũ cán bộ kỹ thuật giàu kinh nghiệm, bao gồm các PGS, Tiến sỹ, Thạc sỹ, Kỹ sư thuộc các chuyên ngành Tự động hóa, Kỹ thuật điện tử, Điện tử viễn thông, Công nghệ thông tin và Cơ khí chế tạo máy. Công ty còn nhận được sự hợp tác của các nhà khoa học kỹ thuật đến từ Trường Đại học Kỹ thuật Công nghiệp - Đại học Thái Nguyên.

Với phương châm phát triển sản phẩm mang thương hiệu Việt đáp ứng nhu cầu ngày càng phát triển của sản xuất công nghiệp trong nước. Công ty đã nghiên cứu - thiết kế - chế tạo và chuyển giao công nghệ thành công nhiều sản phẩm tự động hoá như: Hệ thống điện phân dòng điện đến 30kA; Hệ thống kích thích cho động cơ và máy phát đồng bộ; Hệ thống điều tốc tuabin thuỷ điện; Hệ thống điều khiển lò hồ quang và đúc thép liên tục cho luyện thép; Hệ thống tuyển than; Hệ thống cân băng định lượng; Hệ thống lọc bụi tĩnh điện; Tủ tiết kiệm điện chiếu sáng đèn đường; Tủ nạp ắc quy tự động và cấp nguồn một chiều…. Các sản phẩm của công ty đã có mặt ở nhiều tỉnh thành trong cả nước và đang hướng đến xuất khẩu.

Tiêu chí hoạt động của Công ty là: “Chất lượng để tồn tại – Cải tiến để phát triển - ASO song hành cùng ISO”. 2. Địa chỉ trụ sở chính:

Địa chỉ: Km 15 – Quốc lộ 3 – Tân Quang – TX Sông Công – Tỉnh Thái Nguyên.

Vị trí: Cách trung tâm TP. Thái Nguyên 15km về phía Nam, cách sân bay quốc tế Nội Bài 40km về phía Bắc.

Điện thoại: 0280 3645669

Fax: 0280 3645667

Tài khoản: 102010000960654 tại Ngân hàng Công thương Lưu Xá - TP. Thái Nguyên

Mã số thuế: 4600799060 3. Các văn bản pháp lý:

Giấy phép đăng ký kinh doanh số: 4600799060 được cấp phép bởi Sở Kế hoạch Đầu tư tỉnh Thái Nguyên. 4. Các ngành kinh doanh:

Ngành nghề kinh doanh chính: Dịch vụ nghiên cứu, phát triển, ứng dụng khoa học kỹ thuật và công nghệ vào sản xuất; Tư vấn thiết kế và chuyển giao công nghệ trong lĩnh vực tự động hóa, cơ điện tử; Lắp đặt các hệ thống tự động hóa, hệ thống đo lường, hệ thống cung cấp phân phối điện đến 35kV và các hệ thống cơ khí tự động hóa. Kinh doanh các linh kiện điện tử, các loại máy móc, thiết bị trong lĩnh vực sản xuất công nghiệp. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tuananhk43 (talk • contribs) 06:01, 20 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I am sorry, this is the English Wikipedia, we only accept articles in English.
 * The Vietnamese Wikipedia is at http://vn.wikipedia.org
 * Google translation to Vietnamese (if anyone can improve it or fix any errors please do so):
 * Tôi xin lỗi, đây là Wikipedia tiếng Anh, chúng tôi chỉ chấp nhận các bài viết bằng tiếng Anh.
 * Wikipedia tiếng Việt là http://vn.wikipedia.org
 * Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:56, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/David Miranda
Hi, there is no page for david miranda, who is the partner or a prominent guardian jounralist - there is a big story breaking in the uk, he has been held at heathrow airport under terorism laws with relation to snowdowns leaks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Missannafjmorris (talk • contribs) 11:42, 20 August 2013 (UTC)


 * If you CLICK HERE you can start writing the article. The first thing you need to do is gather some of the news stories you mentioned and use them as references for the article. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:16, 20 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Might be considered WP:BLP1E? - David Biddulph (talk) 12:23, 20 August 2013 (UTC)


 * That would depend on future events and the content of the draft if/when it is created. Whether it goes to mainspace as a biography or as an article about the incident/case/whatever can be decided once such a draft exists. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:25, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Your submission name here
I understand that this year the British Government will allow a Death Certificate,after the person has not been seen or contacted over the course of the past severn years. Patrick — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.193.120.248 (talk) 16:10, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Katz_comics
✅ Dear Wikipedia, I am writing you regarding the following article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Katz_comics

This article is a translation of this one in French. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katz_%28bande_dessin%C3%A9e%29

How can I link it to its original French version?

My English is not the best, I hope to find some help soon and do a correct editing of the translation. Every help is welcome.

Best regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.175.184.1 (talk) 16:18, 20 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Bonjour! Once the article publishes (not before), go to the "Languages" or in your/my case "Langues" button on the left margin of your screen, and you can open that to create links to any other language version of an article. MatthewVanitas (talk) 16:55, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Man Smart (Woman Smarter)
I am perplexed as to why my post Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Man Smart (Woman Smarter) has been rejected again.

My first paragraph has 6 links to other Wikipedia pages (as references).

Then I have 4 (true) references supporting the last 5 sentences.

My last rejection from K7L referred me to a basic Google search for other references. It mostly features videos of one performer who covered the song (the Grateful Dead), lyrics sites (with dubious copyrights), and on page 1 a site I already linked to.

I appreciate that help, but it seems to me that it misses the essential point of my post: that it's an old but well-known song, of questionable origins, that is now detailed in one spot.

I wonder if the problem is the Catlin reference (# 3). What I linked to is what's available online (an excerpt/abstract of an old newspaper article). That's all that's available online. I work at a university and was able to get a hard copy of the entire article through interlibrary loan. The information I stated in my proposed Wikipedia page is in both the hard copy of the article (which most users can't access easily) and the abstract (which user can access easily). So I don't see a problem with citing the abstract. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.250.40.89 (talk) 17:39, 20 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Other Wikipedia pages are of no use for proving notability. In fact, they are of no use as references at all! --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:41, 20 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Also see GoogleBooks; I see there are a number of books of music history which discuss the song and its early recording, impact, etc. Note you can automatically turn a GoogleBooks URL into a Wikipedia footnote using http://reftag.appspot.com MatthewVanitas (talk) 20:56, 20 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Secondly. You should cite the hard copy and link to the abstract. Being difficult to access does not make a source unacceptable (though it may cause uncertainty in the minds of some reviewers), as per WP:SOURCEACCESS. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:48, 20 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Links to other Wikipedia articles are not references. Citing the original news article is definitely better than citing an abstract of it. We don't care that the full article isn't online, if you could find a copy then someone else can too. You can link to the abstract as a "convenience link" but the actual cite should be the original paper. I don't know enough about the subject to evaluate the reliability of the three other websites you have cited - they could be good sources with professional editorial control or they could be mere fansites, but I can't tell. Perhaps a bit more digging in the library could deliver a book or mainstream magazine source? Academic libraries are "gold mines" of quality sources that IMHO are not used nearly enough in popular culture articles on WP. Hope this helps. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:58, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Thomas and Mary Poynton
Hello Why does it say "article not submitted for review" at the top of my submission every time I open it, even though I have followed the instructions and asked for it to be submitted? Is there something else I have to do to request submission that I haven't yet done? Thanks Beth Kubala — Preceding unsigned comment added by BethKub (talk • contribs) 22:02, 20 August 2013 (UTC)


 * There were multiple redundant submission templates on the page - the one at the top was not "submitted" but the others were. I've cleaned it up so that there is only one template showing that it is correctly submitted. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 22:09, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

a c winkler
I do not understand where the submission fails. Can you help please?

Iain Maciver (imac44)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iain44 (talk • contribs) 22:11, 20 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Our citation requirements for biographies of living people are particularly strict. For those it's not enough to simply add the references at the end of the page, but you'll have to add inline citations and Help:Footnotes to clarify which of the sources support which of the draft's statements. See Help:Referencing for beginners on how to easily create nicely-formatted footnotes. Also, IMDb and Goodreads are not considered reliable sources, while his own publisher would not be independent. The published reviews, however, especially the book published by University of West Indies Press, look like excellent sources, and I suspect you make rather too little use of that last one - surely it provides far more details on Winkler that we could use. Huon (talk) 06:05, 21 August 2013 (UTC)