Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2013 August 6

= August 6 =

Deleting an Article for Creation
How can I delete an Article for Creation in my User Space? Strickja (talk) 01:05, 6 August 2013 (UTC)


 * If you're the only contributor to the page, just add to the top of the page. LionMans Account (talk) 02:20, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Kirk_McEwen
Working on posting a page for a Tampa Bay radio personality, musician, author and actor named Kirk McEwen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Kirk_McEwen

It's been rejected for 1) not having enough sources - so after mult. revisions, i've now added 9 sources. 2) not having independent sources, which makes no sense because talkers.com, imdb.com, bleacherreport.com, ontaponline.com and OhMyGoff.tv are quite independent of each other and independent of the subject of the article. 3) I've been told the subject is not notable enough - who's opinion is this? He's been a top-rated morning drive host in a top-20 market for over a year, and has previously won awards for his work in a top-10 market as a DJ. On top of that he hosts his own podcast, he's a published author and, again, he's been in a major Hollywood release directed by John Waters.

I've linked to published articles about other personalities with FAR less citation in this article. Some of them worked under the subject on HIS show, they are relevant enough for an article to be approved, but the subject is not?

Please explain...

Sventology (talk) 14:34, 6 August 2013 (UTC)


 * We need sources satisfying three criteria: Firstly, they must be reliable, that is, they must be subject to editorial oversight and have a reputation for fact-checking. This rules out IMDb and most blogs. Secondly, they must be independent of the subject. His various shows' websites and his Bleacher Report userpage don't satisfy this criterion since they're set up either by himself or by his employers. Interviws, McEwen talking about McEwen, also fall short of this criterion. Thirdly, they must provide significant coverage, not just mention his name in passing. For example, Talkers.com devotes no more than half a sentence to him. If multiple sources that satisfy these criteria exist, McEwan is presumed to be notable. However, I don't see a single source that satisfies all three criteria.
 * Other problematic articles may exist, but that's no reason to create more - each submission must stand on its own merits. Huon (talk) 17:49, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Octane Fitness
Wikipedia talk: Articles for creation/Octane FitnessCan anyone help me understand why this article is being declined? I have used footnotes and listed external references. Thanks. juliemkingJuliemking (talk) 15:44, 6 August 2013 (UTC)


 * How many of the following sources actually mention Octane Fitness?

5. Hank Williford, Ed.D., FACSM, and Michelle Olson, Ph.D., FACSM, Selecting and Effectively Using an Elliptical Machine or Stair Climber, American College of Sports Medicine [http://www.acsm.org/docs/brochures/elliptical-trainer65974E2E8E70.pdf) 6. Klatt, Lois A., P.E.D., and Daniel Kirchhoff, M.A., Machine Arm/Natural Arm Comparison, Concordia University, River Forest, IL, June 1999. 7. Burke, Edmund. R., Ph.D., Editor, Precision Heart Rate Training. Human Kinetics: Champaign, Ill., 1998.


 * Arthur goes shopping (talk) 15:55, 6 August 2013 (UTC)


 * The first of those clearly doesn't, and neither do several others of the article's sources. Others are highly dubious and provide only trivial coverage, such as PE Hub. (Also, that's a source dated 2007 discussing a takeover the article claims happened in 2005. So that source seems to be misrepresented, too.) This needs to be thoroughly vetted to make sure that the cited sources indeed confirm the statements they are cited for. Sources that don't mention the draft's topic should be removed. Huon (talk) 17:49, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Review of Gertrude Clarke
I am writing the Wikipedia biography above. I should like to add her middle initial "M" to the title. I should like to add her photo to the bio page. How are the above to be accomplished. Thank you, Charliedzuba (talk) 19:44, 6 August 2013 (UTC)Charles Dzuba
 * I have moved the article for you. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 21:07, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Before adding a photo, first be sure that you own the copyright to the photo. Usually the person who actually took the photo owns the copyright, but sometimes the photographer gives or sells the rights to someone else.  If it's a photo you  took yourself, you can upload it at Wikimedia Commons.  However, once you do, it will be freely licensed so that anyone can use it.  Once it's uploaded, there's a good help page at Images that you can read, or, just "edit source" on a page that has an image and see how it was done.  &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 21:17, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Anne Delong for the above information. Can PhD be added to Gertrude M. Clarke's name in the title? Could you move the article for me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charliedzuba (talk • contribs) 03:49, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/International Bible Lessons
re: [Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/International Bible Lessons]

This article is about a relatively new organization. The article was rejected for a lack of independent references/sources. Since this is a new organization, there are no other references.

Is there anything else I can do to make this article acceptable?

Prof JTH (talk) 20:13, 6 August 2013 (UTC) John Hannon


 * There doesn't seem to be sufficient independent (not written by Dr. Samson or her organization) sources. I have three suggestions:  (1) Sources don't have to be in English.  Has a news source in the area(s) where the lessons were used covered this?  (2) The sources don't have to be on line.  If there were articles in a newspaper or magazine, they can be used as sources provided that the title of the article, the name and date of the newpaper are known. (3) If neither of these work, consider that most of the article really is about Dr. Samson.  If there are published sources about her and her work, maybe the article could be written about her, and the information about the lessons included in that article.  I hope this helps.  &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 21:34, 6 August 2013 (UTC)