Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2013 February 26

= February 26 =

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/ice 2000 strain creator
information about a strain made of high grade (cannabis)it was Andrew Mackinnon AKA indica kushman/andy indica,the original creator of the ice strain. Andrew made this strain in 1996-2000 for cannabis cup entry for positronic's grow house/seedbank. it has scince been crossed with (early girl)and others so its called by several names now. but people still ask where did ice2000 come from?cup organisers in amsterdam,htcc 1998 ice was an enterant in the cup and won it's class and scooped the highest t.h.c recorded for that year.so to help breeders and future hobbiests info would be usefull.mention "ice" any grower and thay know of it! but the origins are hazy. so to clarify this please list the facts. you can contact Andy at- indicakushman@hotmail.com for any information you might need. it is important info for growers because thay need to back track the genetics to find the results thay will get from crosses of their plants genetic's. Thanks for your time. (the creator and story behind ICE 2000)people are waiting for this info.the strain consist's of redhair skunk/whiterussian/crystal.thats the work Andrew mackinnon did for positronics. signed by adam hutchinson-the seed banks mentioned have been resold and no longer have anything to do with Andrew mackinnon but andy still is at work on strains in Australia-113.21.40.134 (talk) 02:11, 6 August 2003 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.21.40.134 (talk) 01:19, 26 February 2003 (UTC)

Huon (talk) 02:03, 26 February 2003 (UTC)

United States labor history
I submitted an http:// article from my website late last year. The response I got back was that it appeared to be "blank". I have resubmitted it attempting to use all the prompts/symbols that you provide. However, I have no way of knowing what you are seeing on your side. When I click on the submission it is the http://www.isaacpenner.com that I have sent. I have tried to find a way of tracking what is happening to this submission but I am not locating if it is being reviewed, when it will be reviewed or whether it is "alive" as an actual submission or another "blank" page. I don't want to be submitting blanks but I cannot determine what you are receiving. Can I get some feedback with this? four tildes follow[]CantiagueCantiague (talk) 03:36, 26 February 2013 (UTC)


 * We're seeing a page with a single URL (and some maintenance messages): User:Cantiague/sandbox. Your draft hasn't been re-submitted after it was declined. There's no way to "embed" other websites into Wikipedia, and we cannot accept an "article" that's but a link. You'll have to write some actual content in Wikipedia's edit window. That content should be based on reliable sources that are independent of the subject, such as news coverage or biographies published with reputable publishers. I don't think your website qualifies; it looks self-published to me and doesn't seem to have been subject to editorial oversight. Huon (talk) 03:51, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Review of User:Elip Lepi/sandbox
[Draft (?) removed.]

visit to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia if you don't know about teacher just write "teacher "on google — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elip Lepi (talk • contribs) 05:14, 26 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure what you wanted to ask, but I had to decline User:Elip Lepi/sandbox because Wikipedia is supposed to be an encyclopedia, not a blog host. We already have an article on teachers, by the way. Huon (talk) 06:17, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Review of User:Hey Listen To This Music/sandbox
Not clear WHERE we are to check back regarding the acceptance of this content, please clarify. Thank you. MikeHey Listen To This Music (talk) 06:08, 26 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Either at the draft itself, or at your talk page: When the draft is reviewed, you will be notified there. However, the draft currently doesn't show Henley has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, such as news reports or reviews in reputable music magazines; without such sources the submission will be declined. If, as your username suggests, you are affiliated with Henley's label, Hey! Listen to This! Music, you may also want to read our guideline on conflicts of interest. Writing about topics you're closely associated with is discouraged. Furthermore, your username may be in violation of Wikipedia's username policy because it's the name of an organization. That might lead to a block; you may want to change your username to an acceptable one. Huon (talk) 06:34, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Lantek
This artcile already exists in the German version of Wikipedia. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lantek

I worked this article out with my mentor Pittimann, who helped me to create the article due to the existing Wikipedia guidelines. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Lantek

Do I have to do anything else to do to get the article in the UK Wikipedia?

Thanks in advance! rfw-da — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rfw-da (talk • contribs) 09:49, 26 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I'd expect this draft to be declined because it doesn't show that Lantek has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, such as news coverage or articles in reputable trade magazines. "Significant coverage" is usually interpreted as "multiple good sources of at least a paragraph each"; the German Wikipedia is not a reliable source, and the bbr article on its own may be too little. I believe standards of sourcing and notability are higher at the English Wikipedia than at the German one. Huon (talk) 18:51, 26 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I´m a little be worried. bbr is one of three leading trade press magazines for the sheet metall and steel industry in Germany. The branch situation in Germany is not other than it is in UK. I had interviews with the editor in chief at Euroblech, the leading trade fair. I´d beg you not to delete the draft. I´ll find some other sources. Do you need only sources for UK?

79.199.8.65 (talk) 09:09, 27 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Declined drafts won't be deleted (unless they'er copyright infringements, blatant spam, or attack pages, none of which seems to be an issue here), so if the draft is declined, you can continue to improve it at your leisure. Non-English sources are acceptable, though English sources obviously are preferred; see WP:NONENG for details. Huon (talk) 20:43, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Chalkwell Coaches
Hello, "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources" - Could someone kindly tell me what needs improving as I'm slightly lost .... I'm guessing it needs alot more work doing to it ?, Thanks, Kindest Regards Davey 2010   Talk  09:57, 26 February 2013 (UTC)


 * All Wikipedia content should be based on reliable sources that are independent of the subject, such as news coverage or articles in reputable trade magazines. We require significant coverage in such sources to establish a topic's notability. Without such sources we cannot accept the submission. Huon (talk) 18:51, 26 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Hiya thanks for your huge help, much appreciated, The only thing I can find is this http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kentonline/newsarchive.aspx?articleid=6836,
 * Could it still be used?.
 * Although it's not much, the company is mentioned, and Although it's online it would also have been published in the local paper for the Sittingbourne area, Thanks, Kindest Regards Davey 2010   Talk  02:02, 27 February 2013 (UTC)


 * To be considered notable a company must have been the subject of significant coverage in good sources. While Kent Online is a good source, it mentions Chalkwell Coaches only in passing and provides no details about the company. If that's all that can be found, the company apparently isn't notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Huon (talk) 02:17, 27 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh ...okay well thanks for your help again, Davey 2010   Talk  02:56, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Amir Hosseinpour
Hi I've found references, citations and external sites- but I'm really bad at formatting them correctly. It looks a mess now. May I have assistance from someone more practiced than me? with thanks Gallura (talk) 11:56, 26 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I'll do some cleanup, but I don't think these references will do. The Bayerische Staatsoper page on their own production clearly is not an independent source, and most others mention Hosseinpour only in passing; only the Iran Chamber Society, which is of dubious reliability, devotes but a single sentence to Hosseinpour. In particular, none of them cover his personal life or his connection to the Pahlavis. Huon (talk) 18:51, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your response. I'll try to find better references. there are articles in newspapers of reference eg NY Times, etc. Thank you for the cleanup. Gallura (talk) 12:13, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/L.A. Jay
Hi Huon,

Thank you again for your reply. I don't really follow your argument that if an article doesn't mention a producer, then their contribution is not significant. Press articles tend to focus on the front persons who you can see ... But without the producer there would be no song. I appreciate your analogy, but think that it is rather misleading. Producing a record is very, very different to being part of a film crew.

Is there any way that you will reconsider the article if I strip down the content somehow?

Best, Alice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlicePS (talk • contribs) 14:23, 26 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Without a producer there would be no song, but what makes this producer's contribution significant? Surely the band could have found another. If LA Jay is notable for successfully producing songs that no one else would have taken on, you will have to find a reliable source that explicitly says so. If his work was relevant to the songs' chart success, you will have to find a reliable source that explicitly says so. Since there's no indication LA Jay has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent sources, I don't think he's notable enough for an article. Huon (talk) 18:51, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Status of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Harmless Harvest (2)
I'm having trouble finding the status of my article submission. It had previously been declined, so I made changes which I believe make it ready for re-submission and approval. After saving the page, I can't find it in the pending submissions. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you! Jolfy (talk) 20:05, 26 February 2013 (UTC)


 * The draft has not been re-submitted; you can do so by adding to the very top (the "submission declined" message which you removed also contained instructions for resubmission; such messages should be kept as a historical record until the submission is accepted). However, coverage in Time Magazine is rather trivial, and your main source is a reprinted press release by one of the companies, not a reliable independent source. Thus, unless there are better sources, the submission will probably be declined again. Huon (talk) 21:20, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Seventh Vision
I’m trying to relocated ==Seventh Vision (Band)== above the Contents table box. I tried several things in the sandbox before requesting the page creation. Seems to have a mind of its own and keeps going below the table of Contents? Thank in advance John — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seventh Vision (talk • contribs) 22:26, 26 February 2013 (UTC)


 * The first section is supposed to be a lead section without a section heading that summarizes the draft's contents. Thus the first section heading will always be below the table of contents. Anyway, there is no need for a "Seventh Vision (Band)" section heading because once the draft is accepted, the page name, what is now the big "Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Seventh Vision" heading, will be changed to "Seventh Vision", and the page name, unlike section headings, will always precede the table of contents (since we don't yet have another article named "Seventh Vision", there's no need to add a qualifier).
 * However, there are multiple other issues. First of all, your username is in violation of Wikipedia's username policy because it's the name of a group, and on the one hand, it may be seen as promotional; on the other hand, it may imply shared use by multiple persons, which is forbidden. You should change the username to something acceptable; otherwise you may get blocked from editing.
 * Secondly, if, as your current name suggests, you are associated with the band you're writing about, you may want to read our guideline on conflicts of interest - writing about topics you're closely associated with is discouraged because it's difficult to maintain a neutral point of view.
 * Thirdly, you have claimed to own the copyright for various Seventh Vision covers. I would be surprised if the copyright for, say, File:Seventh Vision EP.jpg doesn't rest with the record label. Furthermore, if you indeed own the copyright for those images, are you sure you want to release them under a free license that allows everybody to re-use them for any purpose, including commercial purposes? Either way, it may be best to send a confirming email to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org; see the example declaration of consent.
 * Fourthly, your draft currently doesn't cite any reliable sources that are independent of the subject, such as news coverage or reviews in reputable music magazines. The band must have been the subject of significant coverage in such sources to be considered notable by Wikipedia's standards. Huon (talk) 23:08, 26 February 2013 (UTC)