Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2013 February 28

= February 28 =

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Christian Seidel
Hello, I have created a new Article Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Christian Seidel. It is the english version of a german Article about Christian Seidel. I was asked to bring evidence of the subjects notability. In Germany he is a notable Person, and there are several publications. I checked the Notability Guidelines and found the following as suitable: "Creative professionals >4.The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, that has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews." Can you please tell me what else I can mention that would point out the notability? Thank you in advance! CTC2 (talk) 11:37, 28 February 2013 (UTC)


 * You'll still have to provide reliable sources that are independent of the subject so the readers can verify that Seidel created a significant work, or that he has been the subject of independent books, films or articles - say, news coverage or said articles discussing his work. Right now the article doesn't cite any sources, and most of the external links are Seidel speaking about Seidel - not quite independent. See also Help:Footnotes and WP:Referencing for beginners. Huon (talk) 17:05, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Prashant Ranjan Mishra
right — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pratiharendu raj singh (talk • contribs) 11:48, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
 * How can we help you? I had to decline the submission because it didn't show that Mishra has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable independent sources such as news coverage or maybe peer-reviewed articles about his work (not by himself!) in scholarly journals; thus he appears not to be notable. Huon (talk) 17:05, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Star Tech
Star Tech is a computer company that was founded by Perry Carman and Sam Oliri in 2012 at center school in Longmeadow, MA. They make Operating systems like Microsoft and Apple they aren't a big company but they have big prices. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.139.173.232 (talk) 12:42, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
 * That should be added to the draft at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Star Tech, and you should show that the company has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the company, such as news coverage or articles in reputable trade magazines. Huon (talk) 17:05, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/American Council for CoEducational Schooling
I just made a minor edit. Will reviewers see the latest version? Any idea when this will be reviewed?

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Braindancer8 (talk • contribs) 15:10, 28 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Reviewers will see the latest version. Unfortunately we currently have a backlog of more than 2,000 unreviewed submissions, and it may take a few weeks until a reviewer takes a look. In the meantime you may want to improve your sources. Several of them don't mention the ACCES at all, some are blogs of dubious reliability, and the Science article is written by the founders of ACCES themselves, a primary source. See WP:RS for the types of sources we're interested in, and WP:SYN for why sources should say what we cite them for, and not something else that with some good faith might be interpreted to support what we wrote. Huon (talk) 17:05, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

when did nail rock start
could you create a article on it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.150.166.107 (talk) 18:18, 28 February 2013 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Symbol move vote.svg|20px]] This page is for questions about the Articles for creation process. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what the Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try  for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps. If you want to ask others to write an article, see WP:Requested articles and its sub-pages. Huon (talk) 18:39, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

question on sources - why mine haven't been approved?
Hi, My submission wasn't approved because of lack of verifiable sources. But I don't understand why. Could you kindly explain me why and give me examples of what a verifiable source is? Here's the link of the article I've created. Thank you for your help! Jim

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/James_R._Hedges_IV — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jim Hedges (talk • contribs) 21:02, 28 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia content should be based on reliable sources that are independent of the subject, such as news coverage or articles in reputable trade magazines. Large parts of your draft don't cite any sources at all. The piece that is claimed to be by CNBN is actually a press release, not independent news coverage. If this is the Aspen Peak Magazine article that's supposed to be another of your sources, then it's Hedges talking about Hedges (or more precisely, Hedges talking about art), not quite as independent as we'd like. If that isn't the source that's cited in the article - well, it was the only page that came up on a search for Hedges at aspenpeak-magazine.com; you'd have to provide a link to what you actually meant to cite. The Art Economist might actually be a reliable source, but their website is suspended - that doesn't quite look impressive to me. Besides, while that piece seems to be the source for many of the draft's parts that don't cite sources, it doesn't say what it's actually cited for. It's also used quite selectively; that Hedges' bidding groups were ultimately unsuccessful somehow didn't make its way into the draft. That leaves us with Forbes: That's an opinion piece, not news coverage, and should be used with care - we can cite it for the author's opinion, but we must attribute the opinio to the author.
 * If, as your username suggests, you are yourself the subject of the article, you may want to read our guideline on conflicts of interest - writing an autobiography is strongly discouraged because it's difficult to maintain a neutral point of view. Huon (talk) 21:45, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Yolande Milan Batteau
Have added a good deal of additional sources cited in hopes of having article reconsidered. I believe I have resubmitted on more than one occasion at this point, but seems not have been reviewed again. I'm afraid the issue is that I simply have not resubmitted properly. A second rejection I could understand, but it seems in fact it has not been resubmitted properly for some reason and I can't quite figure out the issue. Can someone offer advise on the simple mechanics of resubmission process? Am new to this! Thanks Tttsss786 (talk) 21:45, 28 February 2013 (UTC)


 * You had not submitted the draft for another review; I have now done so for you. The old "submission declined" message box has instructions for resubmission: "When you are ready to resubmit, click here." We're severely backlogged, though, with more than 2,000 drafts awaiting review, so it may take some time. Please be patient.
 * Some unrelated notes: References are supposed to go after the statement they're cited to support (and after punctuation), not before it. I fixed that. Eight of your references are currently cited for the mere fact that they exist, not for whatever they have to say about Batteau. PlumSiena is a blog, not a reliable source; neither is ThisNext. I also repaired three broken URLs - proofreading your own draft might be useful. Huon (talk) 00:20, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Greg Broadmore
I have spent a lot of time editing and improving the entry only to NOT be able to save it. Is the save the page button not working? Why after I press it do I get a warning that the material isn't saved? Thorntoncomms (talk) 23:04, 28 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Since you were able to save this question, the "save page" button obviously works. What exactly does the warning say? One reason why an edit may not be saved is that you try to include external links to pages that have been blacklisted as spam. Or, if you have set your preferences accordingly, you may be prompted if you try to save a page without adding an edit summary. In very rare cases, Wikipedia experiences technical difficulties: Then you might be unable to save any edit; you'll have to wait a little. In all those cases the warnings are rather specific. Huon (talk) 00:20, 1 March 2013 (UTC)


 * At this moment, it's still not supported by any verifiable references from reliable sources.   —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   05:29, 1 March 2013 (UTC)