Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2013 January 3

= January 3 =

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Isaac Grover
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kanishko (talk • contribs) 05:20, 3 January 2013 (UTC)


 * It seems unlikely Grover is notable enough for a Wikipedia article. To establish his notability we'd have to show he has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of him. Huon (talk) 12:19, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Kanabhai S Amrutiya
Respected Reviwer

Thanks for the prompt suggestions.I would not make tne Article "Kanabhai S Amrutiya". You have pointed that the same article is there at " Kantilal Amrutiya".

I would like to request to add search tag of " Kanabhai S Amrutiya" or Just Kanabhai So that When somebody searches for Kanabhai He can be redirected to the page Kantilal Amrutiya.

Also the Kantilal amrutiya is 95% of the information is added by me only but there I found the name of some other persons. I would like to request you to add my name in the editor of that Page.

Thanks and regards, Kalubhai M Chauhan User: Kmcajanta Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Kanabhai S Amrutiya Wikipedia talk:/Kantilal Amrutiya Kmcajanta (talk) 06:12, 3 January 2013 (UTC)


 * We cannot change an article's edit history, but this article's history does indeed credit you with major additions such as this one. Unfortunately the article cites very few reliable sources; most of the content is unverifiable. In particular there's no source using a name other than "Kantilal Amrutiya". Huon (talk) 12:19, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

D Major (Artiste)
D Major (Artiste) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikidamion.87 (talk • contribs) 06:15, 3 January 2013 (UTC)


 * While that draft cites a few reliable, independent sources, major parts of its content are not verifiable. For example, I couldn't find a source for the claim that D Major "grew up in a middle class household listening to his mother’s R&B and Reggae collection of vinyl". It would help to use inline citations and footnotes to clarify which source supports which of the draft's claims. But I also expect some parts of the draft will have to be removed entirely.
 * The draft also does a rather bad job of showing why D Major is notable. The paragraphs about his early life should probably put in a dedicated "early life" section (if we can source them at all), and the lead should summarize the article proper, clearly explaining what it's about. The first sentence should read something like this:
 * D Major is a Jamaican reggae singer and TV personality.
 * Huon (talk) 12:19, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Balkan News
Following review of the first draft of this article, which was rejected with the comment "This submission reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article. Submissions should summarise information in secondary, reliable sources and not contain opinions or original research. Please write about the topic from a neutral point of view in an encyclopedic manner", I made very drastic revisions and resubmitted. The resubmission was rejected almost immediately with EXACTLY THE SAME COMMENT. While I accepted its validity the first time round, and understood what the first reviewer was getting at, I do not understand how the same comment can apply to the edited version, which certainly looks nothing like an essay and is closely modelled on other Wiki articles about newspapers that are no longer published.

I have tried to contact the second editor for clarification using the link provided in the notification email, but have accessed a page that says he declines to be contacted by email. It seems it might be possible to contact him by Twitter or Facebook, but I do not use either of these. Where do I go from here?

JussibatuJussibatu (talk) 10:29, 3 January 2013 (UTC)


 * To contact another editor you should use his talk page; for the second reviewer, that would be User talk:Mjs1991. However, the draft still has significant problems with its sources. The lead and the "editors" section don't cite any references at all, and while Owen's editorship could be sourced to Villari, I don't think we have a reliable, independent source on Rutter (and the fifth footnote seems to be incorrect in attributing The Song of Tiadatha to Hugh Rutter instead of Owen).
 * The "British Library" section should be removed entirely; Wikipedia is not a library catalogue. I also doubt we could find a secondary source for the British Library's holdings, and secondary sources are what Wikipedia content should be based on. Huon (talk) 12:19, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Dr. Annette Bosworth MD
I dont understand why this is being rejected. Dr. Bosworth's volunteering in Hati and the many especially patient based and veterans organizations that she she has started and works with makes her more than a directory subject. Maybe I should concentrate on the organization in Hati? Paulaw2 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:20, 3 January 2013 (UTC)


 * A directory entry is precisely what this draft looks like, especially the unsourced "creator of" list of bullet points and the equally unsourced personal information. Have Bosworth's volunteer efforts in Haiti resulted in significant coverage in reliable sources? Right now the only reliable source for that aspect of Bosworth's life is the Keloland article which provides few details on Bosworth herself.
 * The coverage of Bosworth's conflict with the South Dakota Medical Board is even more problematic; that sentence's tone is anything but neutral and does not reflect the language used by the sources. For example, the article currently doesn't mention that Bosworth was diagnosed with a personality disorder or that Bosworth admitted to hiring an unlicensed physicians’ assistant, facts mentioned in the given sources. Huon (talk) 19:45, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Robert Trotter
Hi, My submitted article has been rejected and more citation is suggested. I have added what I currenly have within the External References section. Do I need to have more citations? Or are they in the wrong place? I am not clear why this actor is not considered notable enough as he is already referenced within another Wiki - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_the_High_Road_characters

Any advice appreciated thanksBobcat21l (talk) 22:14, 3 January 2013 (UTC)


 * My first piece of advice is to use inline citations. Try to support each paragraph with at least one, better two or three.  Second, most of the souces you give show Mr. Trotter's body of work, but don't say anything about him as a person.  Do you have any such sources?  See what you can find, it would seem this person is notable, so they should be out there.  Hope that helps.   78.26  (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 22:38, 3 January 2013 (UTC)


 * There are a lot of people mentioned in Wikipedia articles who aren't "notable" enough to have independent articles focused on that particular person. Check out Notability and Notability (people) to learn more about Wikipedia's definition of notability. You may also find this page helpful: Identifying reliable sources - it explains that the article needs to reference independent secondary sources such as newspaper articles and books. Dreamyshade (talk) 23:50, 3 January 2013 (UTC)