Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2013 January 5

= January 5 =

Where do I find a review?
Hi. I'm trying to find the review mentioned in this talk page message, but the message doesn't seem to link to the review. Can someone please link me to it? The article is at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Functional magnetic resonance spectroscopy of the brain. An editor has asked for help with it at Wikipedia talk:MED. Thanks. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 13:14, 5 January 2013 (UTC)


 * That message refers to the December 26 version of the draft; it's now moot since the draft has been accepted on January 4. The article itself is at Functional magnetic resonance spectroscopy of the brain by now. If you're interested in the no-longer-relevant review message itself, it was the same as the December 27 "submission declined" message on this draft. Huon (talk) 14:54, 5 January 2013 (UTC)


 * That's a draft for the article David N. Solly, I'm looking for the review of Functional magnetic resonance spectroscopy of the brain. I've looked at most of the versions in the article's history and can't see a review. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 10:42, 7 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm aware of that; as I said: "If you're interested in the no-longer-relevant review message itself, it was the same as the December 27 "submission declined" message on this draft." Those are canned "decline" messages, and the one on the Functional magnetic resonance spectroscopy of the brain draft was virtually identical to the message I pointed out above. But the templates generating the messages are smart enough to realize when a draft has been moved into article space, and the review messages will turn into "This article has recently been created" messages even in the article's old revisions predating acceptance because the entire page history was moved along into the article namespace. If you have a look at the edit that created that message, you'll find that the message is generated by code that begins " {{AFC submission|d|essay| ... " - the submission was declined because it sounded like an essay. Huon (talk) 16:57, 8 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the explanation! --Anthonyhcole (talk) 17:05, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Ehud R. Toledano
Hi,

I read the reviewer's comments, but am at a loss as to what I need to do next. The contribution is a translation of an article in Hebrew Wiki, written about me by one of their editors. I asked whether I can translate the article myself and submit it to the English edition of Wikipedia. I got a response from one of your editors, Jake Ocaasi, who said I can translate it myself and reference the original article, which I did.

Now I am wondering what should I supply in addition: after all, 11 books published by the leading university presses in the English-speaking world (including, Princeton, Yale, Cambridge, and the University of Washington) should count as independent, verifiable, and reliable sources, and they are all cited in the article. If you search Google for items about me, you will get the following result: "About 63,500 results (0.35 seconds)," so I do not know if what is expected here is that I cite what other people write about my books, cite references from Google Books to my work, or what? With respect, it seems to me that your reviewer might not be familiar with how academics are evaluated for notable contribution, which I am assuming might have caused the rejection and the required additions. E.g., my colleague Professor Roger Owen has an article about him in your edition of Wiki, but no "outside" sources are cited in it (and rightly so, his selected works should and did suffice). But there is an external link to his faculty page on Harvard's website, so should I supply a link to my page? a link perhaps to the website of my university chair (appears as an embedded link at the outset of my submission)

I value Wiki and would like to meet any reasonable requests in order to have the item published, but please kindly enlighten me.

Thanks,

Ehud R. Toledano Ottemp (talk) 17:43, 5 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia content should be based on reliable, independent sources - basically, not what you have written (that's not independent), but what others have written about you. To be considered "notable" by Wikipedia's standards (which are not necessarily the standards within academia) you must have been the subject of significant coverage in such sources. Published scholarly reviews of your books would certainly help. But right now the "family", "biography" and "public service" sections don't cite any sources at all - how can I verify their content? Your faculty page would be considered a primary source and obviously isn't independent. It might serve as a source for uncontroversial facts, but it won't contribute towards notability, and it shouldn't be the sole basis for large parts of the article.
 * Other insufficiently sourced articles exist, but that's no reason to create more - each submission must stand on its own merits. Huon (talk) 18:53, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Huon,

Thanks for your helpful comments. I shall be happy to supply the independent references required for notability, but would like to know if sources in languages that are not English--in this case, mainly Hebrew, Turkish, French, and German--are acceptable.

Thanks,

Ehud R. Toledano

Ottemp (talk) 16:10, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


 * While English sources are obviously easier for our readers, non-English sources are acceptable. See WP:NOENG for details. Huon (talk) 17:04, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll be back in a few days with some revisions and added references. Ottemp (talk) 21:34, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Gertrude Clarke
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Biography of Gertrude M. Clarke Dzuba I am finding the Wikipedia article format very difficult. Can a Wikipedia editor edit (apparently delete) the words or sentences of my article which are in question so that I can then locate the required references if that is the problem? Also, once the article is approved for publishing can additional material be added? Thank you Charliedzuba (talk) 18:57, 5 January 2013 (UTC)Charles Dzuba


 * I'm not sure what "words in question" you refer to. The article has been accepted and does not carry any maintenance tags, so there don't seem to be any immediate, obvious problems. There are a few sections and paragraphs that don't cite any sources, though - that might be improved. Of course you can continue to improve it and to add new content (as long as it's supported by reliable sources). Huon (talk) 19:32, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

creating an English biography of a French musician, refused for unknown reasons
Hello,

I am the managing agent of Boulou Ferré and have submitted his english Wikipedia entry for review. It has been declined for unknown reasons (at least I can not find the reasons anywhere in the correspondence). The original article is here : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boulou_et_Elios_Ferr%C3%A9

please help, as I would like it to appear asap. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vonrozen (talk • contribs) 21:17, 5 January 2013 (UTC)


 * First of all you may want to read our guideline on conflicts of interest. Writing an encyclopedia article on someone you're that closely affiliated with is discouraged. It may be better to wait for someone unrelated to Ferré to write the article.
 * Your draft doesn't cite any sources. Wikipedia content should be based on coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, such as news coverage or reviews in music magazines. Claims of greatness must be sourced, else the draft will look unduly promotional and be declined as spam. Huon (talk) 23:52, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Upload a photo
Really? No help here? Telling me to give "it" a name is ridiculous. How do I upload IT? Where do these embedded files come from/go/live? For all the help, this is a crazy part of the system that makes no sense. All I get are fields - no upload: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grossmusic (talk • contribs) 21:23, 5 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm not quite sure what you mean. You can upload a photo via the Upload Wizard, but you should make sure that there are no copyright problems - see Copyright violations. Under "Step 1: Choose your file" you can select a file from your hard drive. You'll have to give it a name under which it will be known on Wikipedia; this name should be descriptive and may differ from the file's name on your hard drive. The "upload" button is at the very bottom of the page. Once it's uploaded, it can be found at File:Example.jpg (with your chosen name instead of "Example.jpg", of course). The picture tutorial explains how to display uploaded images in articles. If this doesn't help, please be a little more explicit in your description of the problem; for example, the name of the page where you encountered the problem would have been helpful. Huon (talk) 23:52, 5 January 2013 (UTC)