Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2013 July 19

= July 19 =

Review of Diego De Leo/Anne.Marie.Snider
Why was this articles declined? Were some of my links problematic?Anne.Marie.Snider (talk) 02:05, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * If you mean Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Diego De Leo AO, well...it's blank. There's nothing there at all. Howicus (talk) 02:08, 19 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I have added a draft template so you can easily submit the draft for a review, but your current sources likely will not suffice - two are the websites of organizations De Leo is affiliated with, the other two are his own works. Wikipedia content should be based on reliable sources that are independent of the subject, such as articles about him published in newspapers or reputable magazines, or peer-reviewed scholarly papers discussing De Leo's work (written by others, not by himself!). Claims such as "high-quality" or "world first" definitely must be supported by third-party sources. Huon (talk) 07:00, 19 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Your draft doesn't cite any reliable sources that are independent of the subject, such as newspaper articles or reviews of Yonai's work in reputable music magazines. This is especially important for biographies of living persons, where content that might be considered either disparaging or promotional must be backed up with a reliable third-party source. Huon (talk) 10:21, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Northern League Cup
Is it possible to rename the name of my article from "Northern league Cup" to "Northern League Challenge Cup" prior to publishing? NEFootballArchivist (talk) 13:55, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * As you have more than 10 edits and your account is more than 4 days old, you should be auto-confirmed and hence able to do this automatically. I have moved the page for you in the meantime. Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   14:49, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Armand Jackson
Hello, i would like to know why this article has been refused. Thanks for your answer, anyone.

Stubok (talk) 15:43, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for your help. Stubok (talk) 16:16, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The comment "needs reliable third-party references" is misleading - Allmusic is widely used as a reliable source on Wikipedia, though discogs is user generated and hence unsuitable. Armand Jackson certainly looks notable, the problem you have is being able to verify the claims made in the article. Do a search for his name on Google Books - you should hopefully find enough coverage in reliable sources to add to the article, so it can be accepted. In particular, A Blues Bibliography p.500 mentions his name and some sources covering his career. Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   16:01, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Review of Millis Transfer article
I have submitted and resubmitted an article on Millis Transfer. I was asked to cite outside sources (rather than a company web site) regarding the company's notable accomplishments which included certain awards they had won. I did this. However, the second editor said that the referenced article had been published from a press release. My confusion is that the organization that determined and presented the award is the one that generated the press release -- not Millis Transfer. How does that invalidate the information? Further, the first editor recommended I look at the Convenant Transport page for guidance. I see nothing on their page that meets the notability requirement PLUS their citations are from their own company web site. And yet, their article is published. I've read the "How to create an article" information on Wikipedia and feel I've satisfied the requirements. Please advise how to get my article the same consideration given to Covenant Transport's page. Thanks for your help. Bringstaff (talk) 17:50, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, Press releases are usually not good sources no matter who put them out. Also, take a look at Other Stuff Exists.  Just because the Covenant transportation page uses mostly primary sources, doesn't mean that primary sources are good enough for your article.  Howicus (talk) 17:54, 19 July 2013 (UTC)