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= June 20 =

Tyler "Plain Jane" Tompkins
Why was my submission rejected?

Bruceleezard (talk) 01:03, 20 June 2013 (UTC)Andrew


 * Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Tyler "Plain Jane" Tompkins was rejected, because the article does not establish the notability of the subject. The references do not cover the subject in depth.  In one of your references, Jon Phillips is covered in depth, but Tompkins is only listed.  Is there a 2007 article that covers Tompkins in depth?  Thanks for your contribution.  Wikfr (talk) 01:56, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Review of User:Maineshepp/Nina E. Allender
Please explain the "warning" Warning: This page should probably be located at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Nina E. Allender Maineshepp (talk) 01:51, 20 June 2013 (UTC)


 * You don't need to worry about that warning, as it will be dealt with by the reviewer when reviewing the article. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:07, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Maineshepp (talk) 11:57, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Review of User:Brian lanids/Harlem illinois
the spelling of my last name is wrong it sould be  landis not lanids  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brian lanids (talk • contribs) 01:57, 20 June 2013 (UTC)


 * If what you're asking is for a change of username, you can request one with the instructions at Changing username/Simple. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:10, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Tengger Cavalry
I have submitted the article 2 times but it still said the reference is not fully evident. So what kinds of reference else I need to add to the reference list ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dying Art (talk • contribs) 02:40, 20 June 2013 (UTC)


 * You can read about the types of sources required at WP:42. As a first hint, anything with "blogspot" in the URL is very unlikely to be suitable.


 * You might also want to read WP:REFB for how to use inline references, and WP:YFA for general layout advice; currently your submission has no wikilinks (thus it is a dead end) and no properly formatted section headings. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:50, 20 June 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm going to give a slightly different opinion to Demiurge. While the formatting of this article is problematic, we won't fail an AfC review just because of that. Band articles on Wikipedia are a bit of a minefield, as so many garage band articles turn up, it tends to make experienced editors and reviewers slightly distrustful of them, regardless of their merits. The Notability guidelines for musicians say that you can have an article on a band that is signed to a major label and has released at least two albums. So, if you can prove that Metal Hell Records is a notable record label, they signed this band, and released two albums on at least a nationwide level. However, that's a bit of a big "if". I agree that you won't get that proof from simple blogs, which anyone can start up and write. I would advise you to get the best sources you possibly can - ideally major news or magazine articles that are published at a national level like Kerrang that talk specifically about the band and do so in great detail. Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   10:06, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Second Opinion on Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Antiquiet please
I reviewed this page a few months ago and rejected it on grounds of notability. The user has since improved it and has sent me a message asking me to look at it again.

I'm sort of in two minds. There is a lot about the subject online but then a lot of what they use for references are the subject's own website. It has more "significant coverage" than some of the local history articles I myself I have created, but given it's a current website it should perhaps have more.

In short I feel quite mean to fail it and overly generous to approve it. -so if someone would be willing to give it second opinion, I'd be grateful.

Many Thanks --Rushton2010 (talk) 10:17, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Antiquiet


 * I spotted one significant problem in the opening sentence - a rather POV remark that the website has "since established itself as one of the leading, and most controversial, music websites in the blogosphere", cited to a non-specific blog source . I think it's reasonable to suggest that metalsucks.net is not going to be a reliable source with a track record of reporting things in a partisan, impartial manner. The Guardian reference is not about Antiquiet but mentions it as a passing mention. The two Wired sources are really about Chinese Democracy and Antiquiet again just gets a passing mention. That leaves Antiquiet's site itself, which obviously can't be used as a source to prove its own notability.
 * As it is, the article's creator has not submitted it for review yet, so I wouldn't do anything at this stage other than direct him towards the usual process for doing this. Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   10:25, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Help
Hi I've been trying to submit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/The_MTA#The_MTA for a few weeks now but the article keeps getting rejected…but always for different reasons. I've checked the other colleges and seen quite clearly that we have cited as many reliable sources as they have, I've been told to write more, write in a certain style….but every time the article is resubmitted another reader rejects it for new reasons. There is one industry newspaper for theatre in the UK - The Stage….there are countless links to that newspaper within the article - I mean that paper named The MTA as the top drama college in the UK…but still the article is getting rejected?

Please help me out here. It's an established, award winning, ground breaking college (they are literally all over The Stage again this week for yet another innovation that they're making) with all of its facts evidenced with references….but the article keeps getting rejected??

I'm now at a loss what to do. Originally the article was reference with approx 7 blog posts (which your own guidelines say are acceptable given that they were on The Stage website and therefore verified by the newspaper, and written by one of their main editors)…but I was told that they didn't count, I then referenced with newspaper references…and now I'm told that they don't count either? Mozartmogul (talk) 14:46, 20 June 2013 (UTC)


 * I've had a look through the sources. Your three best sources are this UK Performing Arts magazine article and this entry in The Stage and this other article in The Stage. I make that significant coverage in three independent, reliable sources, and your article should have passed. I will do this for you now. The next thing you will need to do is ensure each citation accurately reflects the facts presented in the article before it. Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   15:13, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Thinnium Sri Subramanya Swamy Temple &
Thinniam – Lalgudi Thaluka – Thiruchy District Thinniam, a beautiful village, is situated on the banks of Kuzhaiaru, a branch of River Kaveri, and in the midst of plantain grove, in Tiruchy district, Lalgudi Thaluka. Shri Subrahmanya Swamy temple with His consorts Sri Valli and Sri Devasena Lord Subrahmanya with his consorts Sri Valli and Sri Devasena blesses and fulfills all the dharmic desires that you may have when you visit this beautiful temple in this lovely village town of Thinniam. It is very interesting to recall a beautiful incident that enabled the Lord Subrahmanya to reside and adorn in this temple. Historically, it is believed that Sri Raja Raja Cholan’s sister, Kundavai, had desired to construct a temple for the Lord Subrahmanya and consequently, she took the Lord’s idols in a bullock cart, and en route the Lord’s idols got Slipped from the bullock cart in the banks of Kuzhai river. Despite several attempts, the idols could not be able to move out from that place. Finally, it was decided that the temple could be built there itself. In this unique temple, Lord Subrahmanya with His six faces and twelve hands and facing the southern direction, blesses His devotees with his consorts Sri Valli and Sri Devasena. Generally, it is observed that the Guru Lord Dakshinamoorthy faces the southern direction and blesses His devotees. Lord Subrahmanya, who is said to have given His own father Lord Shiva the upadesham of Pranava Mantra, also faces the same southern direction in this temple, thus adding this unique beauty and grace to this temple. It is said that the Gods which face the Southern direction are far more energized, and are all the more powerful, examples being Mylapore Karpagambal, Annai Abirami and Thiruchendur Senthil Andavar to name a few. Another greatness seen in this temple is Sri Valli and Sri Devasena being seated individually one each on a peacock while the Lord Subramanya has His own vahana…the peacock. The Lord exemplies His respect and love for the womanhood through this wonderful temple. It is interesting to note that standing at the same spot, one can have the darshan of Lord Subrahmanya & His father, the Ishwara, who is residing in this temple in the name of Sri Koshteeshwara with his consort Sri Bruhanayaki. In the exterior prakaram, in the line of Ashtakdik Balakas, Sri Mahaganapathy, majestically seated in the Nirrutha cornor, facing the eastern direction showering His immense grace is a unique feature of this Temple. In “Veda” it is mentioned that Nirrutha Ganapathy is the Deity one who wipes away the fear of enemies. In the eeshana corner, one observes the great Navagraha Devatas who, unlike in other temples, are differently seated except the Surya Devata. All the other Navagraha devetas are seated in such a way so as to shower grace on the Surya Deveta, and it is indeed a speciality observed in this temple. Apart from these, we find the sannadhis of Sri Durga, Sri Suryan, Sri Kalabairavar, Sri Nagadevathas, all of which are in the outer prakara. We also find the sannadhis of Sri Shivalokanadhar along with his consort Sri Gyanambika, Sri Kashivishwanathar and Sri Arunagirnadhar, all of which are in the inner prakara. It is most certain that if we have darshan of Sri Subrahmanya of Thinniam (With six faces), we will only witness an upward growth in our lives. The specialty of six are The Six letter mantra for Sri Subrahmanya is “Sharavanabhava”. In the row of Thithis, the Sixth place is adorned by “Shashti”. Sri Subrahmanya’s father, Lord Shiva, including the Adohmugham, Which can be seen only by the Gyanis, is also Sixth. “Karthigai women”, known to be Sri Subrahmanya’s mothers are “Six”. Lord Subrahamanya at Thinniam temple, as a warrior does, helps the devotees overcome the Six internal enemies of humanity namely Kama (desire), Krodha (anger), Lobha (miserliness), Moha (lust), Madham (pride), and Masharyam (jealousy).

The literal translation of the tamil word “Kadavul” is “Swami” in Sanskrit, and this beautiful word generally denotes Lord Subrahmanya, as declared in the famous book of “Amarakosham”. “Amarakosham” means immortal treasure. Truly, our deity, Thinniam Sri Subrahmanya with His consorts Sri Valli and Sri Devesena, is an immortal treasure for us! Other Temples Sri Santhanagopala Swamy Alayam: In this temple, Sri LakshmiNarayana Swamy is the Moolavar, Sri Santhanagopala Swamy is the Urchavar and apart from these, one would find the sannadhis of Sri Anjaneyar, Sri Chakarathazvar, Sri Yoganarasimhar and Sri Garudazvar. It is significant to note that married ladies who are bereft of children generally tie the anklets of Sri Santhanagopala swamy and go around the temple as pradakshanam once and within year, they are blessed with children… At Thinniam, we also can visit the Draupadi amman temple, Sri Meenakshi Sundareshwarar temple and the temple of the village deity Sri Poongavanathamman. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anantharamanbalu (talk • contribs) 17:09, 20 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for providing an english translation, however, the english version is not well formatted and is hard to understand. Wikfr (talk) 17:51, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Joe Pullen
Hello! I just wanted to be sure that I had submitted this entry for your approval. At the top, it says 'not submitted,' while at the bottom it says that it has indeed been submitted.

Not urgent, but I just thought I'd ask! And I know it takes a little while - thanks, John

p.s. I am a professor of History at UNC Charlotte, for whatever that's worth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Salahaldin (talk • contribs) 19:35, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅. It has been submitted. A412  (Talk &bull; C) 19:49, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Dan Haerle Article
Hi, I am trying to get an article published about Dan Haerle. It has been refused several times. I would appreciate any help in getting it published.

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Dan Haerle (2)

mmyers6167Mmyers6167 (talk) 19:43, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Animal Chiropractic
The reviewer of this page appears to be a victim of his own reviews. Every statement in the article is referenced, and not by first party. The page attempts to answer many questions asked daily of animal chiropractors. There is NO opinion on the page, only referenced descriptions and explanations of what animal chiropractic is. Maybe the reviewer has an opinion about the facts and is using it to cloud his judgment, but I would like to have one or two examples of "opinion" statements and a reason why the reviewer 'feels' that these are opinions. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrDennisEschbach (talk • contribs) 21:46, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * This article looks like a copy of Veterinary chiropractic - I checked some of the wording in the "Scope of practice" section and it's virtually identical. What's your rationale for creating this article? Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   12:10, 21 June 2013 (UTC)