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= June 28 =

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I need some documents about bearing calculation — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bwuyl (talk • contribs) 06:57, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
 * This page is for help with working with existing articles you have created. If you want somebody to write an article, try Requested articles Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   09:12, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

How it will treated to you?
I have made draft in wikipedia for the lead singer of an Australian music brand: The Potbelleez. The band has his own page in wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Potbelleez

My draft's link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Ilan_Kidron

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Ilan Kidron

Please help me or suggest me how to get approval of the article from you.

(Arifhasan23 (talk) 08:36, 28 June 2013 (UTC)Arifhasan23)


 * There used to be an Ilan Kidron article but it was nominated for deletion in April 2012 and turned into a redirect. The article contains a source that asserts Kidron has written a top five hit for Ricky Martin. I don't recognise australian-charts.com as a reliable source per se, but they are reporting basic facts, not opinions, and there is no mention of the source on the reliable sources noticeboard, so I think this fact is verifiable. Our notability guidelines for composers and songwriters normally suggest that a composer of a hit for a notable artist should be merged with the artists' article. However, that would not be appropriate here, as you have also verified that Kidron is a former member of The Potbelleez, and hence a new article would be better. I can pass the article now, but first I will need to delete the existing Ilan Kidron redirect, so it may take a short while. Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   08:53, 28 June 2013 (UTC)


 * After the initial mention of the subject's full name in the lead please refer to him by his surname in the rest of the article, never use his first name alone. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:13, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

telangana word lists
First of all thanks to WIKIPEDIA team for your quick update. I dissopointed with the feedback(declined) you have given for my submitted article. However, still i respect your reviews/feedback. Let me take an opportunity to give a clarification on my article, so that you will come to know what am i trying say through my article, and if you still feel this aricle will be not at all reaching your expectations, not looks like encyclopedia, diapprove it.

With this article, i want to let telangana people know or to add or to maintain list of words to use. Like there are many articles i see where for example biography of film actresses/actors and their list movies. So, if this kind of data can be allowed into WIKIPEDIA, then as a crazy fan of WIKIPEDIA why cant i maintain my article? The words i am listing in my article are not like dictionary words. Its not my intesion to maintain a dictionary. Kindly let me add my article.

Sincerely, Thanks Shirish Bathini — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shirish Bathini (talk • contribs) 10:11, 28 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately a list of random terms would be covered by what Wikipedia is not; in particular it's not a dictionary, not even a Telangana (Telugu?) dictionary. You say they're not dictionary words, but I fail to see the difference between a dictionary and a "list of words to use". Huon (talk) 22:52, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for Creation/Sonia Gechtoff
Hi- The entry for the above does not produce a hit when I enter the name in a search engine. It used to, but does not anymore.

I realize that the person who initially reviewed the article is concerned that there are not enough references, but I truly believe that the prominent facts have been successfully documented. Further, the article comports with those about other artists, including Sonia's husband James Kelly, which I also wrote, so I am at a loss as to what to do.

Please advise on how to correct the problem regarding no hits on a Web search.

Thank you.

Cynthia Cynthiavictoria (talk) 14:54, 28 June 2013 (UTC)


 * The article is now in mainspace at Sonia Gechtoff (the AFC link is Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Sonia Gechtoff). Its appearance in Google and other search results will depend on when search indexing crawlers do their thing and index the page. But search results shouldn't matter as we are here to build an encyclopedia, and not to get search hits.--ukexpat (talk) 15:05, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Eric A. Spiegel
I'm writing a bio of a U.S. CEO. It has been rejected for not using correct inline citations. However, it's a bio! I'm not referencing any material that requires a citation. The piece is about when he was born, where he went to school, his jobs, the book he wrote and new articles he's been featured in (there are many). What am I supposed to cite inline?

CRHassettVA4 (talk) 16:40, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Take a look at WP:MINREF and WP:BLP. On Wikipedia, a bio does need inline citations.  Howicus (talk) 16:44, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Eric A. Spiegel
I am working on a bio of the U.S. CEO of a German manufacturing conglomerate. I keep receiving the same feedback -- that I need to properly use inline citations. I am not including content that would require an inline citation according to Wiki's guidelines. I am including links to External References. What am I doing wrong?

The relevant article and feedback can be found at:

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Eric A. Spiegel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Eric_A._Spiegel

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Eric_A._Spiegel&action=edit

CRHassettVA4 (talk) 16:51, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The content you wrote does require sources under Wikipedia's guidelines, specifically WP:BLPSOURCES. Howicus (talk) 16:56, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Submission declined: Benoit Poirier D'Ambreville
My submission has been declined because there is concern that the subject does not have enough notoriety. I have 16 different sources, including from the 3 of the most important women's magazines in Chile - Paula, Ya and Para Ti, plus the most important architecture and design magazine in Chile, ED. When I say 16 sources, I'm only counting the 5 different episode citations once. It is also said that I cite the subject too much. I cite him 5 times out of 35 citations, only to clarify a fact (for instance, two other sources say that he styled hair for the oscars, his says says the exact years). I then also cite him to show the articles he has written about beauty. It's to prove the line "Benoit has written for BC, Infashion, Parati, and I Love Chile Magazines and has contributed to Paula Magazine" which seems an appropriate time to site him.

I'd love some help with this. I want to make this better, but I'm a bit at a loss.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Inongimke/sandbox

Thanks, Eileen

˜˜˜˜ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Inongimke (talk • contribs) 20:23, 28 June 2013 (UTC)


 * For all I can tell those most important magazines all write very, very little about D'Ambreville; much of the draft's content instead relies on primary sources such as D'Ambreville's own website (which alone you cite six times), his writings (another four times) or events he's associated with (such as the TV show in which he participates, (another five sources, though these are highly redundant). If no third party has commented on D'Ambreville's efforts as a writer, why should Wikipedia care? Huon (talk) 22:52, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I did some tidying up in the article. Ignoring the "about" page on D'Ambreville's website and other primary sources, I count 14 distinct sources in the article. How much coverage is required to establish notability? The article is pretty well referenced, with plenty of secondary sources cited. Verifiability does not seem to be at issue; the only question is whether the subject has sufficient notability for an article.--Srleffler (talk) 07:14, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

How to generate the source / witness...
Question on het article  Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Arjan Witte by Doctoreggo: how to create the sources. The problem is that i can hardly find evidence on the Web, since much was created in the 1990's. Another reason is that some info can only be found in newspapers and recordsleeves. In fact i do have them, so evidence is there, but since i am the first source, this input would not be reliable if i would scan and upload in, i guess (?).

Thank you for the effort!,

Grettings,

Arjan Witte a. k. a.  DoctoreggoDoctoreggo (talk) 20:35, 28 June 2013 (UTC)


 * You shouldn't create the sources; you should cite sources that already exist, and the sources need to be published so our readers can verify that they say what they're cited for. They don't need to be available online; print magazines, for example, can probably be looked up in sufficiently well-equipped libraries, and it suffices for you to give enough details so our readers can find them: Magazine, publication date, page number, title of the article, author, ... See also WP:Referencing for beginners on how to easily create nicely-formatted footnotes. Finally, you should have a look at our guideline on conflicts of interest; writing an autobiography is strongly discouraged. Huon (talk) 22:52, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Zsolt Felcsuti
I am writing to you because my article on the above was rejected and I don't know how can i correct it the right way. Please give me some help.

Thank you in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Josef.smith1222 (talk • contribs) 22:25, 28 June 2013 (UTC)


 * There are not enough third-party sources to establish that Felcsuti is notable enough by Wikipedia's standards to be the subject of an article. Magyar Hírlap writes little more than a single sentence, and while the FT article is hidden behind a paywall, it looks like a profile of the company, not Felcsuti. All other footnotes are primary sources such as the websites of organizations Felcsuti is a member of. The sources in your "Sources" section aren't any better; an interview is not an independent source, and the others don't seem to cover Felcsuti in any detail. Conversely, I don't see what source supports the "early life" or "personal life" sections. Huon (talk) 22:52, 28 June 2013 (UTC)