Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2013 May 25

= May 25 =

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Illinois Woman&
Hello, I have a problem and I'm not sure how to correct this. I've written an article about the Illinois Woman's Press Association. One version is posted, a second, edited version is in my sandbox. How do I get the article in sandbox to replace the one that now has two comments? I am the author of both. Prior to my writing about the IWPA there were no other articles about the 128 year old organization on Wikipedia.

Also, I haven't figured out how to link the article in my sandbox with articles already on Wikipedia that should be. Example. Elizabeth Reed; Jan Huttner; National Federation of Press Women. Each of these could and should be linked to my article but I'm still attempting to figure out how to go about it. Each of them has a definite connection to the Illinois Woman's Press Association.

I'm still very new at this. Thank you! BlondewolfBlondewolf (talk) 02:17, 25 May 2013 (UTC)


 * For all I can tell there are currently two versions, Illinois Woman&, tagged for speedy deletion for a host of reasons, and Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Illinois Woman&, where your sandbox redirects to. The former will probably soon be deleted; when the latter passes the review process it it will get moved thereto. I would strongly advise you not to move the page yourself but to await a reviewer's feedback. Furthermore there were copyright concerns; apparently parts of the draft (and the article) are copied verbatim from the Association's website. That will have to be resolved before we can accept the submission.
 * Links are created by double square brackets. Illinois will look like this: Illinois. If for some reason you want the displayed text to differ from the title of the page linked to, you can use a "piped" link: Elizabeth Reed will link to our article on Elizabeth Armstrong Reed but will look like this: Elizabeth Reed. Huon (talk) 03:00, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Fanny
Did Fanny (Oswald's first interest) actually appear in Epic Mickey? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.197.71.211 (talk) 03:36, 25 May 2013 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Symbol move vote.svg|20px]] This page is for questions about the Articles for creation process. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what the Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try  for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps. On an unrelated note, that draft cites no reliable third-party sources and doesn't establish the character's notability. Huon (talk) 03:40, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/David Goldfarb
[Draft removed.] Dobetter18 (talk) 04:37, 25 May 2013 (UTC)


 * That was a copy of your draft. Please don't paste it here but improve Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/David Goldfarb instead. The draft currently doesn't establish that the subject is notable. For that, Goldfarb would have to be the subject of significant coverage in reliable third-party sources such as newspapers or film magazines. Huon (talk) 04:47, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Bigsby &
I'm a new user. I just created an "article for creation" but it wound up on the talk page, not the project page. Did it get to the wrong page, as I suspect, or is this somehow correct? Should I copy and paste the whole thing over to the project page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zwik100 (talk • contribs) 12:53, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Update: I just noticed other articles for creation in this help desk forum are also in talk, so I am assuming that is correct, but then what is the project page for? GS Silver (talk) 13:27, 25 May 2013 (UTC)


 * In articles for creation, you don't need to use the project page for anything. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:36, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Also, do I use my signature on the bottom of the article because it is a talk page, or is the signature only used for commenting on the article? GS Silver (talk) 13:31, 25 May 2013 (UTC)


 * No, you don't need to add your signature at the bottom of the article, even though it's a talk page. (This is just an oddity of how it's set up.) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:36, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

my sagitarius article was declined. why ?
Hi,

I wrote a simple article based on a fictional character from a book i read.

There are other articles based on fictional characters that got approved.

I thought it was objective.

Please provide your reasons for my article being declined ?

Thank you,

Peter — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterhawkes (talk • contribs) 14:56, 25 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Your draft does not give any evidence that the subject is notable, you have not cited any independent sources. Has anyone other than Vago written substantially about the Sagitarius character? Without such sources there cannot be an article. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:04, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Then the question is substantiality because Drizzt Dourden is a fictional character that is only notable by a series of books written about him. Only Salvatore has written about Drizzt, because he owns the intellectual property of him. What is considered substantial ? three books, five what is the quantity that makes a fictional character substantial?

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/OneWayJapan
How do i get my article approved? I've never done this and it's my first article. I think i have corrected it. Can you please check? I think it's ok now — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.135.74.241 (talk) 16:28, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
 * That article has no references. Any Wikipedia article needs independent, reliable references to be acceptable.  Check out WP:REFBEGIN for help, or WP:IRS for in-depth coverage.  Hope this helps!  Howicus (talk) 18:34, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Route 66 Texaco Display at Dobson Museum in Miami Oklahoma
[Draft removed.] Submitted by: Jim Conard 05/25/3013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.190.67.158 (talk) 16:39, 25 May 2013 (UTC)


 * That draft cited no sources, and its tone was unduly promotional. See our policies and guidelines on notability, verifiability, reliable sources and advertisement masquerading as articles. Huon (talk) 23:43, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Fredrick Kúmókụn Adédeji Haastrup
Rejected post: Frederick Kumokun Haastrup Ajimoko I

Hello Shii - I'm new to Wikipedia. Have tried reading up on how to include citations, but frankly, I find it all very confusing and still have no idea how to go about it. I've added in the page numbers as you requested. Ajimoko I is my great grandfather. Adedokun my father. I grew up hearing about Ajimoko I from my father. 'DesoHaa &#39;DesoHaa (talk) 22:44, 25 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately Wikipedia requires reliable published sources that are independent of the subject, such as newspaper articles or books published with reputable publishers. Your father's personal reminiscences are not verifiable by our readers and thus cannot be used as a source. Wikis are user-submitted content without editorial oversight; they're not reliable.
 * It would also help if you used footnotes to clarify which of the references supports which of the draft's statements; see Help:Referencing for beginners on how to easily create nicely-formatted footnotes. For example, which source confirms that Kúmókụn was kidnapped in ca. 1824 while on an errant?
 * The draft currently is not submitted for another review, but I doubt it will be accepted without additional reliable third-party sources. Huon (talk) 23:43, 25 May 2013 (UTC)