Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2013 May 31

= May 31 =

re: Rewriting Deleted Article
Hi, my name is Katie and I'm writing in regards to an article/page that has been deleted several times. The company and article subject is GuardNOW, a security guard franchise company who is looking to create a new article/page that meets Wiki criteria. If someone could let me know what needs to be done to move forward with a new page that would be great. I understand that the main issue is promotional content and lack of 3rd party sources; writing the article from a NPOV is no problem, though any specifics or suggestions on how best to incorporate/obtain 3rd party sources would be most helpful in moving forward. Here is the link to the GuardNow Deletion Page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Zaid231

Please let me know if there's any add'l info you need and thank you for your time! KateZaid231 (talk) 00:30, 31 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Since the article was declined repeatedly and ultimately deleted for not being neutral, that may be more of a problem than you think. However, the lack of sources is worse. Incorporating them is easy - see WP:Referencing for beginners on how to easily create nicely-formatted footnotes. Obtaining third-party sources is much more difficult, especially when multiple editors have looked for them and came up empty, as WP:Articles for deletion/GuardNOW suggests. I don't think I have any greater chances than those editors; I'd suggest that the company simply isn't notable enough for an article. Maybe write about something else? Huon (talk) 01:39, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Bernadette Pajer
Is there anything left that I need to do to speed up approval of this article? Jelafi17 (talk) 03:57, 31 May 2013 (UTC)


 * The draft's tone seems unduly promotional, and the content is largely not supported by the given sources, some of which (especially Book Lover Book Reviews, which looks like a personal blog to me) don't seem reliable in the first place. Huon (talk) 05:39, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/V. Raghunathan
We appreciate your response, however, we need your guidance in letting us know how do we reference a blog/ blogger as it will be written by the person himself and no editorial work has been undertaken on the same. Thanking you for all your feedback and guidance. Aghosh4 (talk) 05:13, 31 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Preferably not at all. The person's own writings are primary sources and should be used only for uncontroversial details (such as the blogger's birthdate), not as the sole basis of large amounts of content. Even then Wikipedia would prefer secondary sources such as newspaper articles about him. If primary sources are necessary for some such uncontroversial detail, you'd cite them just as you'd cite secondary sources; for blog posts, by giving the author, the title and the URL. WP:Referencing for beginners will explain how to easily cite websites such as blogs. Huon (talk) 05:39, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/The Rural Business School
My article: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/The Rural Business School seems to have been refused for a second time despite my making the changes required after the first time. With the second rejection there doesnt seem to be any explanation as to why it has been rejected. I need to know why so I can make the appropriate amendments and re-submit.

Thank you

Almacres (talk) 12:02, 31 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Actually you have been advised twice to read and follow the guidance at Referencing for beginners but you have clearly not succeeded in doing so. If there is something in the guideline you do not understand feel free to ask us. The explanation for the decline is always in the grey box in the middle of the pink review template - both times the exact same reason was given. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:38, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/N. Anthony (Tony) Coles
I submitted an article for review on May 20. Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/N._Anthony_(Tony)_Coles. I know there is a backlog for reviews but wonder if there is an anticipated review date? Thank you very much. Adam Silverstein (talk) 14:42, 31 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Currently the oldest unreviewed submissions are from May 17, so yours should be reviewed within the next few days. Huon (talk) 00:49, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Ray "Killer" Allison
This article is currently in the queue for review.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Ray_%22Killer%22_Allison

one small question - i would like to change the title to "Killer" Ray Allison as opposed to Ray "Killer" Allison.

How do I change that, and will it delay the review???

Please advise.

Thanks,

Prophetic dreamer (talk) 17:01, 31 May 2013 (UTC)Prophetic dreamer


 * No need to change it until the draft is moved to the mainspace.--ukexpat (talk) 17:27, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * You can simply change it in the text and explain it in the edit summary, then whoever does the review that approves it would see what has been done and move it to the correct title. If not it can be moved again anyway. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:59, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Carli Kapff
Writer54321 (talk) 21:42, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Early Career
Carli Kapff was born in Belvedere, Kent, and was educated at Tonbridge School after which he gained a Master’s degree in microbiology from Cardiff University. In 1984 he was the youngest person ever to be offered a postgraduate place at the London Business School, but he declined the place in order to pursue at career in music. In 1984, the London-based band, Pressure, which he'd formed with Charlie Mole, Simon Heilbron, Robin Niblett and Paul 'Tubs' Williams, and which he fronted, was offered a deal by record company, Rondor Music (now part of Universal Music Publishing) to release a single. However, shortly afterwards, the band split up.

In 1986, whilst living and performing as a solo artist in Atlanta, Georgia, Carli was asked to audition for Star Search, an early precursor of television music talent contests such as X-Factor, which was hosted by Ed McMahon, the former side-kick of Johnny Carson. and reached the semi-finals of the series, performing to an audience of over 12 million per episode.

Having returned to London in 1987, Carli set up and managed Freud, a seminal West End café-bar where regular customers included music impresario Malcolm McClaren, artist Leigh Bowery, and Anthony Fawcett - formerly personal assistant to John Lennon and Yoko Ono. The success of Freud earned Carli a ‘One To Watch’ tag from magazines including The Face, World Of Interiors and Arena, and he went on to set up and manage Freud, Oxford.

Record Label
Between 1991 and 2006, Kapff worked at PIAS Recordings, the recorded music division of PIAS Entertainment Group, a European independent artist and label services company. Initially he launched its international department from Brussels, and from 1995, managed the UK division's A&R department from their offices in Notting Hill, London. From there, he ran Laurent Garnier's label, F Communications in the UK. In 1999, he released the notable single, "Flatbeat" by Mr Oizo aka Quentin Dupieux, which was a hit in Europe reaching number one in the UK charts for three weeks between March and April, and selling over 3.5 million copies in total. The track was central to a series of Levi's jeans commercials which Dupieux also directed featuring a yellow puppet named Flat Eric nodding his head to the sound of the track whilst riding in an old car. Musically, it represented an early example of a popular track in the genre, Electro house. During this period, Kapff released F Communications records by, Llorca and St. Germain aka Ludovic Navarre, as well as the compilation "Superdiscount" by another French DJ and producer, Étienne de Crécy which included tracks by other notable French acts including Air.

Also released by Kapff in the late 1990s were the debut album (EP) by Los Angeles hip-hop act Jurassic 5, the debut UK release, "Much Against Everyone's Advice" by Soulwax aka Too Many DJs. Within PIAS Recordings, he founded various label imprints including, Pan, which released deep house and techno singles and compilations such as "Sounds Like Paris" and "Sounds Like Glasgow". He also ran the UK operations of Radikal Fear, a record label owned by Chicago-born DJ and producer, Felix da Housecat, releasing tracks by Eddie Fowlkes, Glenn Underground, Boo Williams and Black Beatniks, and the sole full length album by notable house music producer, Armando, "One World, One Future" shortly before Armando's early death in 1996. Concurrently, Carli was running the 'Stone's Throw' record label for the American DJ and hip-hop producer, Peanut Butter Wolf in Europe. He also released singles from American artists, Madlib, MF Doom, J Dilla and Aloe Blacc.

In the early 2000s, Kapff ran the Electric Chair label, releasing mix albums for Manchester-based DJ producer duo, Justin Crawford aka Only Child and Luke Cowdrey, known as The Unabombers aka Electrons. He also released the first single by record producer, Calvin Harris in 2004 entitled "Let Me Know" which appears on The Unabombers' album "Electric Soul 2". He also founded label imprint, Genuine, which released several debut albums, including "Music For The Mature B-Boy" by DJ Format and "We Are Little Barrie" by Little Barry. Also released on the Genuine label were "Waltz Of A Ghetto Fly" and "Afro Strut" by Detroit-based soul-funk artist, Amp Fiddler, and an album by Peven Everett who had previously recorded vocals for the hit single, "Gabriel" by Roy Davis Jr.

Music Management
In 2006, Carli left PIAS to manage bands, including the North London-based trio, Golden Silvers, consisting of lead singer and keyboardist, Gwilym Gold, Ben Moorhouse on bass guitar, and Robden Alexis Nunez on drums. In 2008, Golden Silvers won the prestigious New Talent contest to play on The Other Stage at Glastonbury Festival, playing again at Glastonbury in 2009. Kapff helped secure a record deal for the band with XL Recordings for their debut album "True Romance" which was released in 2009. Later that year they supported Blur at Hyde Park in London as well as playing at Reading Festival, conducting a UK tour, and playing in Japan and the USA. In 2010, the band modelled for an American Vogue fashion shoot styled by Grace Coddington which was shot by photographer, Steven Meisel. In 2010, Carli secured brand endorsement for Gwilym Gold from fashion house, Burberry, involving a worldwide advertising campaign shot by photographer, Mario Testino. Kapff also secured collaboration with fashion designer, Stella McCartney, and the band played at the opening of Stella McCartney's Tokyo store,

'Brands & Brands' Agency
Realising the potential to further develop brand-artist collaborations, Kapff founded a music consultancy for brands, bands and media agencies, named, Genuine. Genuine held its first educational ‘brands and bands’ event at PRS For Music in February 2011 in collaboration with the Music Managers Forum MMF with the aim of establishing best practice in the arena of brand sponsorship and endorsement of music.