Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2013 May 6

= May 6 =

Tolikara Papua Indonesia
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kabupatentolikarapapuabarat (talk • contribs) 00:49, 6 May 2013 (UTC)


 * How may we help you? Huon (talk) 07:01, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

My article has been declined by FoCuSandLeArN (talk). How to resubmit the modified content?
My article draft is Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/V. Raghunathan and it has been declined on 22 April 2013 by FoCuSandLeArN (talk). Now I have modified the content and want to resubmit the same. So, kindly help me in this regard. Aghosh4 (talk) 05:50, 6 May 2013 (UTC)


 * You can resubmit the draft by adding to the very top (including the curly brackets). However, none of your sources are independent of the subject - most of them are his own books. As sources we don't need Raghunathan's own writings or his company's, but what people not associated with him have written about him. Newspaper articles about him or reviews of his books would make good sources, for example. In its current state the draft would be declined again for the same reason. Huon (talk) 07:01, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Margasoft Corp.
Hello,

I have written an article about Margasoft Corporation.

My publication was not published, because the submission was not adequately supported by reliable sources.

So, I want to send some links for you to see whether they are considered reliable sources or not.

http://itguide.eif.am/?id=129#top http://www.zoominfo.com/#!search/profile/company?companyId=352387825&targetid=profile http://www.it2business.org/product.aspx?pid=107 http://www.crunchbase.com/company/margasoft-corporation

Thank you in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khzhanna (talk • contribs) 08:46, 6 May 2013 (UTC)


 * The EIF Guide is written by Margasoft itself, not an independent source. So is the Zoominfo profile. I cannot quite tell what IT 2 Business is, but it looks like Margasoft's software supplier to me, who wouldn't be an independent source. I see no evidence of editorial oversight, so it's probably not a reliable source either. Finally, CrunchBase is user-submitted content without editorial oversight, definitely not reliable. Furthermore, according to the page history you apparently wrote that one yourself. Huon (talk) 09:46, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Charlie Drew
Thanks Huon for the Infobox. It proves it can be done but, of course, I am no wiser about how to do it! I am now struggling to locate the reflist listing to clarify The Era. The Era was a British Showbiz newspaper which was published for 101 years (Search Wiki - The Era (newspaper). I spent several years searching and copying microfilm in libraries in Birmingham, England and Rhyl, North Wales and have considerable source material. If I had got started on my great uncles' bio I had planned to cross refer to The (London) Palladium Minstrels and E.H.Williams' Merrie Men of Rhyl which were huge showbiz attractions in their time but may be of little interest to some people now some 100 years later. I have lodged a 129 page privately printed book with various libraries in England & Wales but had hoped to preserve my research on the internet in some form before my demise (currently 71 years of age!) when, no doubt, my reference material will be confined to a rubbish skip! I fear that creating Wiki pages is on a par with computer programming which I have not attempted since my early days with a ZX81! So I may have to call a halt to this. Maybe someone has created an idiots programme available in a box on a shelf at PC World that would automatically programme the Wiki process for me. Money to be made there methinks. Malcolm Drew Malcolmdee (talk) 16:00, 6 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I had provided the diff so you could see what I added. For more general help on infoboxes, see Help:Infobox; for the documentation of this particular infobox, see Template:Infobox comedian. Basically, I just copied the relevant stuff from the template page and filled in what parameters I could ascertain or guess.
 * Regarding The Era, a link to our article on The Era (newspaper) would have been helpful (I've added it now) - I tried a Google search which, rather unsurprisingly, failed utterly because it swamped me in irrelevant eras. But even with the link, would you expect our readers to look up a year's worth of newspapers to find the one that discusses Drew? Could you provide a more specific publication date, and maybe a page number? The same goes for the Rhyl Record & Advertiser which I presume was not a monthly publication.
 * On a more general note, the draft currently seems rather devoid of specific information. Where and how was Drew educated? When did he perform with what troupe? What was his role in the performances? Was Drew himself (as opposed to the troupe as a whole) the subject of public or critical acclaim? What did he do after he stopped performing? Do we know anything about his family? Was he married? When and how did he die? I obviously haven't checked the sources (and since I don't expect my local library to carry pre-WWI editions of those newspapers I probably would be hard-pressed to do so even if I knew exactly where to look, but that's a problem with my library, not with the sources), but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they cover the troupes Drew performed with and only mention Drew himself in passing - that would not be the significant coverage we need to establish that Drew himself is independently notable enough for an article of his own. Huon (talk) 18:23, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Cancer Systems Biology
Could you tell me when I can expect decision on the page I have created Cancer Systems Biology? --Lestrada45 (talk) 16:03, 6 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I believe there's currently a review backlog of about ten days, give or take a few. However, most of those draft's sections don't cite any sources; that should be fixed before the draft is reviewed, or it will likely be declined for that reason. Huon (talk) 18:23, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Charlie Drew
Hi,again, Huon, Sorry about some lines of irrelevant stuff that got into my post a short while ago. I did not realize that this "chat" page processes those funny bracket things! Malcolmdee (talk) 16:19, 6 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Not a problem; I fixed it. If you want to write about a "template" (ie something that uses those brackets) on a page without actually using it, we have a special template for that purpose; for example, reflist will produce this: reflist That's just a link to the reflist template, not the list of references which the template itself creates. Huon (talk) 18:23, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Sarah Beattie
At the top of the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Sarah_Beattie it says “This is a draft Articles for creation submission. It is not currently pending review...” and at the foot of the page it says “Review waiting. This submission is waiting to be reviewed. This may take several days...” These statements contradict each other. Please clarify.Blueshistory1 (talk) 16:43, 6 May 2013 (UTC)blueshistory1
 * Pol430  talk to me  17:05, 6 May 2013 (UTC)


 * The "not currently pending" message is an artefact that should usually be removed by a bot - in this case Pol430  pre-empted the bot. As long as there's a "review waiting" message on the page, it is submitted for a review. Huon (talk) 18:23, 6 May 2013 (UTC)