Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2013 November 3

= November 3 =

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Disabled People Against Cuts (DPAC)
Can someone please tell me if there is a format for referencing journal articles that are behind a paywall? Apologies if the question is a bit simplistic, I am quite new to this. I am trying to get this article created and currently losing the will to live over the stupid thing!!! [Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Disabled People Against Cuts (DPAC)]

The group have received large amounts of media coverage for actions undertaken, so it is easy to reference the sections where it is just about a protest or event that was organised. However, to make sense I believe the article also needs the basic factual information, when they were founded, where, why, by whom, etc, and in my initial drafts the references I had for that are mostly the organisations own web site. I have a number of other references I could use which come from various articles from the academic journal 'Disability and Society' but this journal is behind a paywall. I can access it from my uni account, but not otherwise. Therefore a reader of the Wikipedia page could not necessarily follow the reference. If I can use these journal articles I can probably cut the organisations own web page out of the list of sources.

I have also referenced one academic text book, but it doesn't look quite right, as the authors name is showing up as a broken link, when it isn't supposed to be a link at all. The book can be read through both google books and through amazon, but both are incomplete. It makes more sense to just reference it as a text book, surely?

If I can get enough sources so that I am not using the organisations own web site, is it also possible to have a list of links at the end, and put it there? I'm sure I've seen that as a format on other pages, but don't see any particular template to do so. Many thanks if anyone can help. Wheeled Ciara (talk) 18:14, 3 November 2013 (UTC)


 * To cite academic journals use cite journal. Don't worry about the paywall, as long as some readers have access via college libraries to verify the citations it's ok to cite paywalled sources. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:13, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Many thanks Wheeled Ciara (talk) 19:17, 3 November 2013 (UTC)