Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2014 August 20

= August 20 =

07:04:18, 20 August 2014 review of draft by BrandonWalker2014
Hello, Can a Wiki expert/administrator please assist me with formatting. For some reason, (i do not know) the "Filmography" section table is below the "Reference" section. How can I correct this formatting to put the "Filmography table" underneath "Filmography. Also, can you please review the entire article and give feedback/corrections on any errors that you may see in this article, to ensure it is correct and ready to go live? THanks so muchBrandonWalker2014 (talk) 07:04, 20 August 2014 (UTC) BrandonWalker2014 (talk) 07:04, 20 August 2014 (UTC)


 * ✅ the first. You were missing the table closing syntax. I added |} at the foot. I do not feel competent to review this draft, I am afraid, so I will leave that to others. To ensure it is in the review 'queue' please click the green "Submit" box in the top greay box. We prefer editors to do this for themselves. Fiddle   Faddle  10:35, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

TimTrent! THANK YOU SO MUCH! I really appreciate you helping me out. :) BrandonWalker2014 (talk) 21:05, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

10:27:11, 20 August 2014 review of submission by Satish 2554
Satish 2554 (talk) 10:27, 20 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Please do not submit your test edits for review, and very definitely do not bring them here to ask for help. Wikipedia is for you to read and enjoy, or for you to make meaningful contributions to. Fiddle   Faddle  10:39, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

12:34:29, 20 August 2014 review of submission by BEDownes
First, I am not asking for a re-review of the Virginia Myers article as yet. I just need a bit of help in what I should do. I do plan to do a much longer article about this extraordinary dancer whose achievements have been largely lost to history over the last 80 or 90 years. But that is certainly about to change. The large amount of documentation I discovered in a sealed box in an art storage room titled "VIRGINIA DANCES" amazed and startled me in what it revealed about a truly unique and unmatched creative talent who was the talk of New York for her entire dance career between the ages of 4 and 17.

By the way all the information and documentation about her career has now been chosen to be part of the Jerome Robbins Dance Collection at the Lincoln Center Library of the Performing Arts.

I had intended the short article I put together only to be a stepping stone to the full article to come. I had included a number of references and direct quotes from newspaper reviews and articles about her over the years, including the name of the paper and the date. I assume what is needed as proper reference are the actual newspaper pieces including a specific date or whatever.

What I also don't know is how much of this documentary material should be included. I did do quite a good article for Wikipedia on Ethel Myers, Virginia's mother and an excellent New York artist. This was with the invaluable advice and guidance of Sarasays of the Wikipedia family.) The little Virginia Myers is a very different challenge. Ethel was one of many fine artists at that time and she did some excellent work. Virginia was a creative dancer like no other in the field of arts or dance had ever seen before and as far as my research goes, there's never been a dancer since that could perform as she could. She is probably the greatest intuitive creative dancer the world has ever witnessed. Anywhere. That's a hell of a statement to make about anybody in the arts at anytime, but it seems to fit in this case. Though I've been a successful professional in both television and film, I still can't understand how it was possible she did the sort of solo dancing she did. This was totally without her ever having a single dance lesson and never even rehearsing for a dance concert before she performed.

Anyway if you have the time you might want to take a look at a site I've been working on about her. Here is a link to it. http://ques.com/virginia%20dances/

The first four pages are virtually complete, you need not look at the remaining pages which are largely no more than a starting point. Still the first four will tell you most of what you might want to know, and the detailed page 4 gives you a good assortment of the supporting documentation that is available (still only part of the full total).

Also I'll paste in here just the copy from page two of the site. It offers one of a great many reviews that were published about "little Virginia" over the years. I think you might find it interesting.

Thank you for your help and also for rejecting a largely unfinished article. I had thought the newspaper quotations were at least some indication that she certainly was a notable candidate for inclusion in Wikipedia.

My regards, BEDownes (talk) 12:34, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

BEDownes (talk) 12:34, 20 August 2014 (UTC)


 * There is a strong likelihood that she is notable, and also that the newspaper items you refer to may show it. I think the issue has been the review did not spot those because they are in "A chronology of newspaper and other clippings" rather than in references. So I looked at them hard to determine whether the article could be accepted almost 'as is' today.
 * My view is "Almost". This is the same as "No", by the way.
 * The thing that would turn this into a definite acceptance for me is the dates of the reviews, the day and month and year. We need, you see, for references to be capable of verification themselves. Do that and there is a string probability that a reviewer will accept it like a shot, but put them in the "References" section.
 * Your idea to start with a small article and to build is the right one. Our cornerstone is that we require references from significant coverage about the person, and independent of her, and in WP:RS please. See WP:42. This is as true with 1912 references as 2014 ones. Fiddle   Faddle  19:10, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

21:34:58, 20 August 2014 request for review by Libertyofcourse
Hector Bejar

21:34:58, 20 August 2014 review of submission by Libertyofcourse
Can you please let me know why my submission has been rejected? I have included all suggestions from reviewers previously and this decline does not have a reason.

thanks Libertyofcourse (talk) 21:34, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Libertyofcourse (talk) 21:34, 20 August 2014 (UTC)


 * It has been accepted (or directly created), at Hector Bejar. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 16:35, 21 August 2014 (UTC)