Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2014 December 11

= December 11 =

01:09:43, 11 December 2014 review of submission by 117.194.144.172
117.194.144.172 (talk) 01:09, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

No page for Mr. Roji John ?


 * 117.194.144.172, what draft are you talking about? You're not logged in, and you're using a different IP than you presumably used to substitute a draft, so we have no idea what you're talking about unless you provide us a link, and let us know what your specific question is. MatthewVanitas (talk) 05:26, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Request on 11:15:29, 11 December 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by Thilinaticbt
I want to delete this article. I already created an article and it was accepted on 8th. but I don't know how to move it to the article page from sandbox. Thilinaticbt/ICBT Campus is a blank article. So please delete it.

Thilinaticbt (talk) 11:15, 11 December 2014 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 20:12, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
 * It's not clear which page you want to delete . Put on the user page you want to delete and an admin will come and remove it. Rankersbo (talk) 13:40, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I have tagged User:Thilinaticbt/ICBT Campus to indicate that you have requested it be deleted. An administrator should delete it shortly. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK

16:45:34, 11 December 2014 review of submission by Dkozko6
I keep getting denied and am not sure why, can someone please explain to me what am I doing wrong? Dkozko6 (talk) 16:45, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
 * If you don't understand why then you can't read. Reviewers have been leaving comments on the draft. If you would act on those you'd be farther along. In fact, you made very little progress between your June review and your September review and you've made no changes since September. This makes me believe you're not taking this seriously.
 * The draft is overtly promotional. "He likes to spend time with his family and childhood friends." and "has always had a passion for creating and discovering solutions" are good examples. Please read WP:TONE and WP:PUFF.
 * You have a list on general references and articles about living people need to have in-line citations. Most of the "references" you list aren't both reliable and independent. You should remove those entirely. At least one of the "news" websites you list is a press-release. Most of the remainder are business news articles reporting about some company that Kozko has some stake in. The articles aren't about him so they provide some verifiability but no notability. I don't think the subject could be considered notable so I'd just give it up. Do you have a financial interest in this draft? Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 21:20, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

18:03:42, 11 December 2014 review of submission by Tomxcoady
The given reason for rejection is subjective and unsubstantiated: "A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject." It would be useful to have a more constructive critique that builds on the facts; most of the claims have objective citations. Tomxcoady (talk) 18:03, 11 December 2014 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 20:04, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The page you linked to, Chantal Coady, was deleted because it was an unambiguous copyright infringement of http://www.lesdameslondon.org/members/. Your draft at Draft:Rococo Chocolates was rejected not because of your connection, but because it read like an advertisement. Yes, part of that is that an account called Tomxcoady is editing an article about a company founded by Chantal Coady, but also because of the flowery language in your article that isn't substantiated by significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK

20:53:49, 11 December 2014 review of submission by Paul.kang.aovs
AOVS 20:53, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

I've been trying to add the logo (Alpha Omega Veterans Services - Logo.jpg) and it has been uploaded despite my best efforts. Would you please provide guidance on how to do that properly?


 * Hello Paul.kang.aovs, for copyright reasons you can only add a logo after the draft publishes. After your draft is accepted, then please follow the instructions at WP:Logo to add it under the Fair Use copyright permissions. MatthewVanitas (talk) 15:02, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul.kang.aovs (talk • contribs) 15:44, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

21:47:08, 11 December 2014 review of submission by BonnieAClark
21:47:08, 11 December 2014 request for review by BonnieAClark

My article on 40 Bond Street was declined because the reviewer said it read too much like an advertorial. The person did not, however, cite specific examples, so I am not sure how to improve the article. Please state explicitly what should be changed/revised. Thank you. BonnieAClark (talk) 21:47, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I get what the reviewer is "feeling" from the draft but I can't point to particular phrases, either. Part of the issue is that the source material is kinda puffy which is why your draft reads that way. I don't think I'd accept your draft based on general notability. This WikiProject's metric is that any draft accepted stands better than 50/50 odds of not being deleted. I'm not sure your draft passes 50/50. If no one accepts it within a month, let me know and I'll accept it and throw it to the sharks. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 00:17, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

22:40:45, 11 December 2014 review of draft by Strnbrg59
How am I doin'? This will be my first Wikipedia article ever. As I'm just translating an existing, well-documented, article in Hebrew Wikipedia, I haven't put anything into the references section; my reference is the corresponding Hebrew article.

Mordechai Tsanin meets your criteria for notability. The University of California, Berkeley, library has fifteen of his books.

Please let me know if I'm at least on the right track.

Strnbrg59 (talk) 22:40, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The corresponding Hebrew article, he:מרדכי צאנין, doesn't have references which is a problem. English Wikipedia is the largest and certainly the strictest. Since you can't use Wikipedia as a source you're going to have to find reference material to support your draft. To that end, see our notability criteria about academics, authors and our guidelines for biographical notability. There are a great many people that are known in their field or their hometown that don't pass our criteria, so don't be so quick to assume you can prove notability. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 22:57, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

@Chris Troutman Hi, thanks for that quick turnaround. I see what you mean, about the lack of references in the Hebrew article. Fortunately, it does provide a link to a long obituary piece in HaAretz (one of Israel's leading dailies, paper copies of which can be found at major American university libraries). Would it be acceptable for me to finish translating the Hebrew Wikipedia article, leaving out anything that's not also mentioned in the HaAretz obituary, and then declare that obituary as my one and only reference? Or I could straight-out translate the obituary; how would that sit with Wikipedia policy? Too close to plagiarism? Please let me know. (I'd actually prefer option 2; the HaAretz article is better written than the Hebrew Wikipedia article.)

Now as to notability, are you suggesting that could be an issue here? There are many people in the English-speaking world who are interested in Yiddish culture and letters, but who are unable to read the Hebrew article. (There's a Yiddish Wikipedia article on Tsanin too, but it's quite short.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Strnbrg59 (talk • contribs) 23:27, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not discussing if there's an audience for the article; I'm sure there is. That's not how our notability criteria works. I welcome you translating from the Hebrew-language article but it would be a copyright issue taking text from the Haaretz material. By all means, use that as a source to write more content. Copying within Wikipedia is generally ok. Because Wikipedia is CC-BY-SA, we need you to write in your own words. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 00:31, 12 December 2014 (UTC)