Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2014 December 17

= December 17 =

04:26:17, 17 December 2014 review of draft by Strnbrg59
I want to post a question on the talk page of the Hebrew version of the Mordechai Tsanin article (requesting pointers to verifiable documentation, that I might use in my English version). How do I identify myself there? If I type Strnbrg59 (talk) which would work fine in an English article, instead those become links to nonexistent pages of the Hebrew Wikipedia!

According to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MergeAccount, all should be fine; it tells me "Login unification complete! You can now log in to any wiki site of the Wikimedia Foundation without creating a new account." Well, yes, I can indeed log in to Hebrew Wikipedia as "Strnbrg59". But the links to my user and talk pages still don't work.

Strnbrg59 (talk) 04:26, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * This is a question for the help desk, not this AfC help desk. However, I'll answer it. Your global account allows you to edit in all the different sister projects under your account. Of course, your user page doesn't exist yet because you haven't created it and no one's welcomed you on he-wiki because you haven't edited there. Go to the he-wiki article's talk page, post your question signing with four tildes like you do here, and then await a response. Create your he-wiki userpage however you like; you can do the same thing there you did for your userpage here. You don't have to have a userpage to edit Wikipedia. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 19:08, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

09:15:05, 17 December 2014 review of submission by Aymaneltoukhy
I would like to know what are the defects within my page in order to post it online. Aymaneltoukhy (talk) 09:15, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Your submission already exists on Wikipedia as Ramesses II. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  12:32, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

09:48:35, 17 December 2014 review of submission by Geven46
I would like to know please which copyrighted material I inadvertently used. I am totally new at this and hence I will most definitely delete the copyrighted infringement part. I have been completely new at this. I would be most grateful for an answer and guidance so I would delete the copyrighted material. I had no intention to infringe any copyrighted material. I will most definitely delete the copyrighted infringed portion and resubmit the article. Geven46 (talk) 09:48, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia's copyright is unusual and frequently misunderstood by newcomers. Simply put, you cannot copy text from other websites unless they are explicitly marked as public domain, or have a compatible licence such as CC BY-SA 3.0. What that means in simple terms is it must be permissible to change the work, and sell that changed work to others. Since this is generally not what most website authors want, it's assumed to be a copyright violation unless explicitly licenced to our terms. The simplest thing to do, generally, is to rewrite the text in your own words. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  12:31, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you Ritchie333 for your response which I find very useful. Where would I find my article to rewrite the same? Can I place the copied text in inverted colons and follow this with a reference? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geven46 (talk • contribs) 22:52, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * If you can convince the administrator who deleted your draft that you wrote the text and that the copyvio was a good faith mistake, they may be amenable to emailing you the text, provided you go into "Preferences" and ensure the option "Enable email from other users" is checked. You can place a small amount of the text as a specific quotation, but in general I find this is only useful in very limited circumstances, usually when you want to make it very clear you are writing about an opinion, not fact. [[User:Ritchie333|Ritchie333]] (talk) (cont)  09:29, 18 December 2014 (UTC) @Ritchie333 thank you again. I will try convince Joe Decker the copyvio was a good faith mistake, to be honest I sincerely thought quoting from a copyright is no infringement. thank you again.

11:34:48, 17 December 2014 review of submission by Castibet
I want to know the reason the article was declined please and what I should do to make it eligible for a re-reviewCastibet (talk) 11:34, 17 December 2014 (UTC) Castibet (talk) 11:34, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Your submission was declined due to a lack of reliable sources, as documented at the top of your submission. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  12:28, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

17:39:49, 17 December 2014 review of submission by Calebaencole
If an entry had been accepted as far as notability but declined for language, then revised a lot to address language (formality and promotional language) and resubmitted only to be rejected for notability, what should I do? In this case someone else tried to submit an article that was declined (accepted as far as notability after a revision but rejected for language after that) and I completely reworked the article and submitted it separately under my login but was rejected for notability. Does the fact that it was accepted previously for notability mean anything or was that a mistake/not relevant here? I'm happy to add further citations if that's the issue. Just wondering if there's anything else I'm not understanding. Thanks for any insight.Calebaencole (talk) 17:39, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Calebaencole (talk) 17:39, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Who said it's been "accepted for notability"? When, where, by whom? I agree with that there is only a single good quality reference that can be taken into account for a notability assessment; one is insufficient. Similarly, there is no verifiable claim in the article that makes Simon stand as as a notable individual. <span style="font:small-caps 1.0em Alexandria,serif;color=#00008B">Bellerophon  <span style="font:0.75em Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;color:#9966CC;">talk to me  18:51, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

17:56:24, 17 December 2014 review of submission by Haleema Tanveer
As i am not receiving any reply and i want to know the problem so i am using this.

Haleema tanveer (talk) 17:56, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * The problem is that the Articles for Creation process is heavily backlogged so there may be a considerable wait for drafts to be reviewed. Additionally, you have created a stub-article about a small village in the Punjab that contains a lot of unencyclopedic and unverified information. Typically, articles about small villages with little verifiable information about them are simply redirected to the article covering the nearest town. <span style="font:small-caps 1.0em Alexandria,serif;color=#00008B">Bellerophon <span style="font:0.75em Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;color:#9966CC;">talk to me  18:58, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

20:36:18, 17 December 2014 review of draft by Penthrift
I think the article is ready for submission. There I two pictures that I think might be worthwhile adding: Official Macalester portrait, undated - via email I could confirm Macalester's consent to use it. Personal photo of Yahya & wife Ruth in Iran in 1941 owned by my family, given to us by them. questions: should either or both be included? If yes, technically I haven't figured out how to do it.

Any other article comments, or I should just submit it?

thank you Penthrift (talk) 20:36, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

21:08:00, 17 December 2014 review of draft by Strnbrg59
I can't seem to get the man's picture to show up. I've included a reference to it in the "Infobox", but what shows up is the picture's URL, rather than the picture itself.

Apart from that, does this draft look like it's ready to be submitted for inclusion in Wikipedia?

Strnbrg59 (talk) 21:08, 17 December 2014 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 21:14, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The  before the file name forces Wikipedia to display a link instead of the image. I removed it for you. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK


 * Thanks again. So, would you say the article is ready for submission?