Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2014 February 16

= February 16 =

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Trota of Salerno
Resolved&#58; Done by Anthony Appleyard (see this edit). --User:Anon126 (talk - contribs) 06:48, 16 February 2014 (UTC) In regard to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Trota of Salerno, I received the following message: Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Trota of Salerno a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into User talk:Historian1098. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page. This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Cut-and-paste-move repair holding pen. Thank you. -- I'm afraid I'm still new to Wikipedia and don't fully understand how the "Move" function works; indeed, I cannot even see the "Move" tab when I'm on the new "Trota of Salerno" page. I would appreciate if an administrator could perform the move/conversion for me. Historian1098 (talk) 21:08, 15 February 2014 (UTC)


 * The "Move" tab is not immediately visible. To the right of "View history" there is a star (for watching the page), and then a downward-pointing arrow. Click or put your cursor over the arrow, and an option labeled "Move" should appear. (Or see this page if this isn't clear.)
 * You have tagged the new Trota of Salerno page with ; an administrator should come along soon to fix this. --User:Anon126 (talk - contribs) 21:39, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Review of User:Melitta2012/sandbox
Hi, I have created an article, a bio about an published artist no longer alive. I understood why it was declined, I had forgotten to include some references and was eager to have it published. Now I am taking my time, I have researched and learned more about article creation in Wikipedia. I am not a programer and takes time to figure things out. By the way my first language is not English, I live in the US and I think it is the international language everyone should learn. I would appreciate to have it reviewed and learn if there are areas I need to improve. I believe that the artist definitely has the notability required, I have several published references that I did not include in the first submission but have include in the last editing. Also regarding the English text I would really appreciate if someone could correct grammatical and structural mistakes I have probably made in the text. By the way I am new to Wikipedia and I am really impressed with the efficiency and seriousness of the people that is working here, thank you all. I am not clear what is my submission name. The title of the article or my user name Melitta2012?

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Beny Tchaicovsky(1954-2009) or

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Melitta2012 Melitta 06:15, 16 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Melitta2012 (talk • contribs) Melitta 06:19, 16 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Melitta2012 (talk • contribs)


 * Pictogram voting info.svg Just a note: Your submission name is the name of the page where it is currently. In this case that is actually User:Melitta2012/sandbox. (I have updated the heading.) --User:Anon126 (talk - contribs) 06:44, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Where to find Reviewer's comments?
My article was rejected and I got a message that I can find the reason in the "comments of other reviewer". But I do not see these comments anywhere. Where to find? Thanks, Marici Punarvasu (talk) 12:31, 16 February 2014 (UTC)Marici Punarvasu Marici Punarvasu (talk) 12:31, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * This has been answered at the Teahouse.Theroadislong (talk) 12:39, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Jason P. Stadtlander
I tried creating an article last year on an author whose book I read; Jason P. Stadtlander. I would like to propose the creation of the article again. I've seen him writing on the Huffington Post and in several magazines around the world as well as his books. Could anyone give any input on whether I might be allowed to do this? Just hate waste my time again to have it shot down again. --B4theword (talk) 16:33, 16 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, you may try to create an article again. However, if you don't want to, as you say, "have it shot down again," please follow the advice I'll give below:


 * Wikipedia requires that article subjects be notable. Being published in notable publications doesn't necessarily mean someone is notable. Notability generally means people have written or otherwise created works about him. (See the general guideline, guideline for people and guideline for authors and other creative professionals.)


 * Take the time to read some of the messages on your talk page A few different articles you created were nominated for deletion (and subsequently deleted); you should follow the links to the discussions to understand the reasons given for deletion. (Impatient? Here are the discussions for Jason Stadtlander and for Barbara Stadtlander. The discussion for T. Michelle Nelson may also be related.)
 * In addition, Tokyogirl79 left a discussion on reliable sources on your talk page. Yes, it's quite long, but it has valuable information on how reliable sources relate to notability on Wikipedia. --User:Anon126 (talk - contribs) 19:26, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

User:Findbrianshaffer/sandbox
I just submitted an article for review and it was rejected stating that it violated copyrights. I am not sure what they are considering copy righted material, as every piece of it came from FindBrianShaffer.com which is a site I manage and maintain.

I am new to all this. Just trying to publicize a missing man. Any help you can provide will be greatly appreciated.

Findbrianshaffer (talk) 17:57, 16 February 2014 (UTC)


 * No matter how noble the cause, Wikipedia is not for promotion, unfortunately. In nearly all cases information must come from independent, reliable sources. If you wish to write an article about this person, you will have to find such sources of information (most likely news articles or reports) that discuss him.


 * About copyright: If you own the copyright, please see donating copyrighted materials for information on how you can allow it to be used on Wikipedia. Note, though, that if you wish to do this, you will have to release this material under a free license, which means anyone can use it for whatever purpose with few restrictions. (Read about what free and non-free content means on Wikipedia.) --User:Anon126 (talk - contribs) 19:07, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Gainor Roberts
I am working to improve the references for articles for creation/Gainor Roberts. Questions: 1) Do I have a limited time to revise? (I cannot work on this for the next week.) 2) Some newspaper articles aren't available online, but only as clippings, so they aren't verifiable. Do you have a problem with this?

Thank you, (Evelyn4414 (talk) 21:40, 16 February 2014 (UTC)).


 * 1) You do technically have a "time limit," but it is six months. That should be plenty, but if not, your draft can be moved elsewhere to give you more time.
 * 2) Offline sources are just as acceptable as online ones, so no, that isn't a problem. --User:Anon126 (talk - contribs) 22:43, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Your submission name here
how do i create a sandbox — Preceding unsigned comment added by Candyloverhere (talk • contribs) 23:00, 16 February 2014 (UTC)


 * All you have to do is type in "User:Candyloverhere/Whatever name you want". You will be informed that the page does not yet exist, and there will be an option to start (create) it. --User:Anon126 (talk - contribs) 06:20, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Nancy Buchanan
I want this to go straight to posting.

It doesn't need a review.

Marilyn Nix (talk) 23:56, 16 February 2014 (UTC)


 * If you really wanted to, you could move it yourself, since you've been here much longer than four days and made many more than ten edits. It seems you have already tried to and were cautioned at the Teahouse.


 * However, I wouldn't recommend that because there are some issues. The lead section (the first part of the article) should be rewirtten; see the style guide on leads for more information. I'm not sure about all the block quotations. Finally, as (I assume) she is a living person, inline citations are required for all "contentious" information ("challenged or likely to be challenged" according to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anon126 (talk • contribs) 06:33, February 17, 2014‎ (UTC)


 * Thanks Anon 126.


 * No, I have not been cautioned that I am aware of; I am awaiting a response from the Teahouse.


 * Question: where is style guide on leads how do I use this line?
 * Oh a link, I see. Thanks again.


 * Thanks for your suggestions. I will rework the opening paragraph as you suggest.
 * There is nothing contentious in the article; block quotations are a style choice.


 * Best,

Marilyn Nix (talk) 06:19, 18 February 2014 (UTC)