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= January 14 =

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/S.U.R.E. Campaign (Singapore)
Hi,

I submitted the above article to provide more information on the SURE campaign initiative by the National Library Board of Singapore.

I have supplemented the articles by citing the official websites and also cited the newspaper articles and radio interviews of the media coverage of the campaign. As this is a new campaign, there is no scholarship (neither books nor JSTOR articles) published on it.

Hence, I would like to enquire on some specific examples of the reliable sources that I should be including in the article.

Thanks very much!

Ilosure (talk) 05:38, 14 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Your sources are actually good, newspapers such as the Straits Times are exactly what the article needs, so actually that decline reason was incorrect. There is one thing you can do to dramatically improve the article: You have created a table of "Media coverage" where you provide links to print and radio articles about the subject. External links such as this are not as a rule allowed in articles. It would be far better if you rather used those articles as sources, summarizing in your own words what they had to say about the subject. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:42, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi @Dodger67,

Thanks so much for your suggestion. I made the necessary amendments, would you mind letting me know if the article is good for resubmission now?

Thanks very much for you help!

Ilosure (talk) 09:57, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/pallimukkam devi temple
Pllimukkam Sree Bhagavathi temple is one of the most renowned temples in Kerala. The temple is located at nooranad in Mavelikkara taluk of Alappuzha district in the south Indian state of Kerala. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MAHI MOHAN (talk • contribs)


 * You should add references to your article submission in order to verify this information. For example, you could cite books, newspapers, magazines or major news websites. For more information on how to add references, please see Referencing for beginners. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 10:18, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/MySurvey
Hello, I have resubmited my article on Dec 16, 2013. It's been 4 weeks already, and still didn't hear any feedback. So I was wondering did I successfully resubmit the article? Thank you so much for the help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lsrpopwiki (talk • contribs)


 * It was declined a few minutes ago by User:Anupmehra.


 * I would note that WiredPRNews and Yahoo Voices are not reliable sources; it's possible that business2community.com is not either. You can find out more about identifying reliable sources at VRS. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 10:16, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Centrefolds
Please advise on how to submit new article "Centrefolds" for review and hopefully submit to Wikipedia

Thank you for your help Martin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martinriles (talk • contribs) 10:12, 14 January 2014 (UTC)


 * You will need to add references to the article submission. See Referencing for beginners for more information. You should also review NMUSIC for the notability requirements for musical acts. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 10:20, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Cancer etiology and molecular pathogen
This is a article which describes new discovery of pathogens for cancer and autoimmune diseases. It may be little difficult to read it for readers who are not in this field. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bjfarm (talk • contribs) 13:43, 14 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not the place to publish your ground-breaking research about how cancer is (supposedly) infectious. See NOR and MEDRS. Seek other outlets - such as medical journals - to publish your work. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 14:00, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Deception Mini 12 Keelboat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Deception_Mini_12_Keelboat

I am unable to understand why this article for submission keeps getting rejected. I have in my opinion more than documented the boat and that there is noteworthiness. I have included several blog entries as well as a number of sources documenting the boat. there are similar boats to the deception that are listed in Wikipedia and why my submission is not being accepted is a bit discouraging.

Seankiaer (talk) 20:44, 14 January 2014 (UTC) Sean Kiaer Seankiaer (talk) 20:44, 14 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello See my comments added to your draft article. And please refer to WP:Notability, as you aren't quite seeing what we mean by "noteworthy". We want you to demonstrate that books on sailing history, academic publications on design, sporting magazines, etc. have taken note of the Mini 12 and discussed its significance. See WP:Sourcing. MatthewVanitas (talk) 21:23, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello Mathew. I have already done that by citing Allan Johnson's Blog on the boat. Allan Johnson is well known sailor, local yacht dealer and yachting blogger in the Pacific NW. I have also posted an article published by Sailing Anarchy a very well respected sailing group. I have cited the very prestigious and highly respected Royal Victoria Yacht Club Mini 12 page. As well the Highly respected and prestigious Seattle Yacht Clubs information regarding the boat. and cited other boats in the Mini 12 category.Seankiaer (talk) 22:18, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Sean Kiaer Seankiaer (talk) 22:18, 14 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello ! Listing other boats is not "citing", it's just a "see also" section or similar; it's helpful to readers but doesn't in and of itself add any credibility to the Deception Mini 12 article. I cannot speak to whether Sailing Anarchy and The RVYC count as WP:Reliable sources on the same level as professional sailing publications, peer-reviewed maritime journals, professional sporting reporting, etc. So far as Johnson's blog, it appears to be a personal blog, so despite however recognised Johnson is, if his blog is not peer reviewed, not accountable to editorial oversight, etc it may not be admissible per WP:BLOG, since it's backed up by nothing more than one person's reputation and self-review, no matter how skilled he personally may be. I'm not against having an article about this yacht, but since you've asked for review, we're letting you know what the standard is per WP:Verifiability. MatthewVanitas (talk) 02:12, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello again to Matthew Vanitas and all others that have been trying to help me. Thank you all for your patience in giving me assistance while trying to create an article regarding this very unique one design sailboat. As I am sure you are all aware by now I am one that is fairly computer illiterate and need a lot of tutoring. I hope that the changes I just made are an improvement. The only thing I do not have is sources that will satisfy Wikipedia other than what I have already listed. This boat has been probably one of the best kept secret for one design sailboats and very little has been written about them in any major publications other than what is listed. What else can I do? Seankiaer (talk) 03:36, 15 January 2014 (UTC) Sean Kiaer Seankiaer (talk) 03:36, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I've kept my hands out of this for the most part due to personal involvement with sailboats, but I've been keeping an eye on this. I do have personal experience with the generic "Small Boat" class these fall into and I'm seeing some facts, but not enough information pertaining to why this specific line of boats is notable. Read my comments primarily as a (Sailing) WP:SNG level decline, though I'm personally also having difficulty justifying this on a GNG level as well Hasteur (talk) 21:36, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/European Market Research Centre
Articles for creation/European Market Research Centre I'm a new contributor - this is the first article I have written from scratch. How would I change the above page title to 'European Marketing Research Centre (EMRC)'? I intend to cleanup the bare urls as I've now learned how to do that by editing some other articles. JohnPWFoster JohnPWFoster at AdHoc Media (talk) 20:54, 14 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello . We don't add acronyms to titles, since the current title is the actual name of the organisation. You can mention your acronym in the first line of the article itself. MatthewVanitas (talk) 21:08, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello Matthew. Thanks for the clarification. I do feel a bit stupid asking questions all the time, but I'm new to Wiki (but enthusiastic). I have a question about Disambiguation...I'm writing a new article on a Brazilian drum and bass artist called BTK. Unfortunately that is also the nickname of a US serial killer, and I would like there to be some disambiguation...I have read the disambiguation pages but can't get my head around them - is it correct you have to write a new article to disambiguate?

The Disambiguation issue also emerges my first article European Market Research Centre as the organization is commonly referred to as EMRC which is also an acronym for Eastern Metropolitan Regional Council, Early Modern Research Centre (University of Reading), 2006 European Mountain Running Championships, Eton Manor Boys' Club among others.

Potential 'searchers' would likely search under 'EMRC' on Wikipedia's Main Page or in a search engine like Google. How would I sort out the EMRCs of this world, so my page doesn't get lost amongst boys running clubs and Australian town councils? Thanx John JohnPWFoster at AdHoc Media (talk) 01:21, 15 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Searching for EMRC on Wikipedia gives your article as the second result down, so I don't think there is a problem? Arthur goes shopping (talk) 17:48, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanx, And would you suggest I disambiguate when i write BTK? JohnPWFoster at AdHoc Media (talk) 09:50, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Santa Cruz Music Festival
Hi, I was updating the Santa Cruz Music Festival page. And was wondering the best way to reference URL link into the article. I looked at the information online, and was a bit confused on the correct way for me to link several of the reference to the article. Please let me know the best way possible for me to connect the reference to the articles.

thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.92.89 (talk) 23:35, 14 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello (are you also ?), please see WP:Referencing for beginners. Note also WP:Reliable sources; forums, Facebook, etc are not admissible, we need serious media, music journal, academic, etc. coverage. It may be too early to do so for a festival that's only happened once, unless it gathered significant coverage. MatthewVanitas (talk) 23:42, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Midnight Rain
Why article 'Midnight Rain' is not approved? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nensyful (talk • contribs) 23:55, 14 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello, have you read the big pink box at the top of your draft which explains why your draft was Declined for now? It advises you to read WP:Notability (music). Have you read that yet? Make sure you read that first, then ask us if you still have questions. MatthewVanitas (talk) 02:15, 15 January 2014 (UTC)