Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2014 July 5

= July 5 =

07:40:17, 5 July 2014 review of submission by Arunima Dasgupta
Hello! My article was declined at Articles for Creation. I was wondering why my article has been declined. I would be glad if you could tell me my mistakes so that I can improve henceforth. Please help. Arunima Dasgupta (talk) 07:40, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * It was declined for failing to meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations; which is something of a misnomer, because the real problem is that the person you have chosen to try and write about just isn't important enough for Wikipedia. Sorry. Bellerophon talk to me  08:02, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

08:56:56, 5 July 2014 review of submission by Jjhammett
Hello, I work at a university and 1 of the professors down the hall from me asked me to make a wikipage about him. I used all of the information her gave me and I cited his website and his contributions but other than the website and his own words there is nothing else to cite yet every time i resubmit i need more citations. Any suggestions?

Jjhammett (talk) 08:56, 5 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Every time? I see only the one submission listed above. If you have created multiple copies under different titles, please consolidate them into one and blank the others. You can find any others by looking at the top of the screen and clicking "Contributions".
 * I have just declined the article, not yet for referencing. I find the prior review to be faulty, and the reviewer is aware that a number of recent reviews were imperfect. We are solving that problem, but there were many. I have declined it for the reasons I have given at the head which I hope are clear. I have not checked your referencing at this stage because I can;t quite determine which is referencing what. I will if you ask me to, once you have tidied the submission up a bit. Well, a lot.
 * Please may I advise you against a mutual wikipedia article circle. It can be tough when a well respected colleague asks you to create an article, and a refusal may be seen to be career limiting. So please do the best you can, something we will help you with by giving you the best reviewes we can (and we do, usually). But do not be tempted to repeat the prof's exercise in asking another to create an article on you.
 * WP:ACADEME is also of interest. Do read it. It shows you why Wikipedia is very different form Academe. Fiddle   Faddle  09:14, 5 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I have now found Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Anthony DePalma. Please choose one or the other to be the one that goes forwards. Merge the relevant information into the one you choose and then, please, empty the one you do NOT wish to proceed with of all content, to signify that it may be deleted. You are allowed to do this to article which you have created and are the sole editor of. Fiddle   Faddle  09:17, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

09:41:35, 5 July 2014 review of submission by Rowantree1850
I am a new user and trying to include my first article which was declined, as the subject, a music hall comedian and actor called Harry Braham (1850-1923)was Not notable and I had not included enough references, I contacted the reviewer for help but have yet to receive a reply so I thought I would contact. The subject acted in numerous plays in the 19th and 20th centuries and appeared in 4 films one of which was Birth of A Nation. His career is verifiable through newspaper articles in the UK, USA, Australia, New Zealand and Jamaica, He performed by special request before the last King of Hawaii, and with Georgie Drew Barrymore and Agnes Booth - a well known actress and sister In law of John Wilkes Booth and toured with and was a friend of The Father of Vaudeville Tony Pastor. I am unsure how to proceed and exactly what references are required, his obituary was included in a number of papers such as New York Times and Variety which also detailed his career, his name is already included in a Wikipedia article on the play The Senator in which he played alongside William Henry Crane for 5 years I hope you can help--Rowantree1850 (talk) 09:41, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Rowantree1850 (talk) 09:41, 5 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Obits are a great source of reference material, assuming they are published in WP:RS. Playbills, not so much, though they do confirm that he was in the cast list. Reviews of his performances are good. Newspaper articles in print or online are excellent. Reading WP:42 may help you a great deal, as will WP:REFB and WP:CITE. Fiddle   Faddle  10:51, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

15:38:03, 5 July 2014 review of submission by Piwowath
I received this response when I first attempted to create this page. I don't know now to proceed.

Hello! Piwowath, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering or curious about why your article submission was declined please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Roger (Dodger67)

Piwowath (talk) 15:38, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The message on your talk page doesn't explain why your draft was declined; we're working to correct that in the future. You have to go to the draft for the reason. In your case (just like everybody else's case) you don't have sufficient reliable and independent sources with which to make a claim of notability. If you could find discussion of this fire lookout tower in newspapers and published books, you could use those as sources. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 03:03, 7 July 2014 (UTC)