Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2014 June 11

= June 11 =

07:24:30, 11 June 2014 review of submission by GettingFactsRight
I'd like help in understanding why the Enchanted (book) Wiki page was rejected.

GettingFactsRight (talk) 07:24, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello GettingFactsRight. Draft:Enchanted (book) was declined for the reasons given in and under the pink boxes on that page. Click on the links in the decline reasons for more information. Let us know if there are any aspects of those guidelines that you need more explanation of. In particular, bookseller sites are not independent sources about books that they are selling, and most book review sites are not reliable sources for Wikipedia. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 07:39, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Referencing
Hello,

I have read a good deal of the articles provided by Wikipedia on how to properly reference an article for creation, but I want to clarify something. Does a certain percentage of the information on a Wiki page have to be refeneced? For instance, for a very simply, basic introduction of a company within an article, should the company's official website be referenced or is it considered common knowledge? This kind of information normally cannot be found through any other sources (such as through the news).

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hengtian (talk • contribs) 07:54, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi! Yes, very basic information about a company can be referenced to the company's website, such as the type of business they are involved in, where they are based, and who owns it. This kind of reference is called a primary reference. However, primary references cannot be used to demonstrate why a company is notable (important enough to be in Wikipedia), that is what secondary references are needed for. Bellerophon talk to me  17:15, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

08:16:36, June 11, 2014 request for review by KJH2014
HALLO! WHILE MY DRAFT IS AWAITING FOR REVIEW, CAN I AMKE FURTHER CHANGES IN THE MEANWHILE. THANK YOU KJH2014 (talk) 08:16, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes you can Rankersbo (talk) 08:22, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

08:44:35, June 11, 2014 request for review by Dinauzan
Hi

I've been trying to create an article in wikipedia for a long time. I've added references. I've done the one hour tutorial. I've done my best for it to comply with all wikipedia rules. But my article is never accepted, and it's quite frustrating because I never get to know why. Could anyone please have a look and tell me what's wrong with my article? I'd be really thankful.

I'd like to write other articles and edit existing ones, but if I don't manage to get even my first article online, how can I write other ones?

Thanks in advance for your attention!

Best regards, Dina — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dinauzan (talk • contribs) 08:44, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello Dina. At least one of your article submissions was deleted because you had copied text directly from the organisation's website into Wikipedia. You cannot do this as it is a copyright violation. Another issue was the overly promotional wording. Encyclopedia articles should have a neutral and factual tone. Phrases like, "comprehensive and welcoming dynamic centre", "community-driven organization dedicated to enhancing the quality", "pioneer organisation", "inclusive role player", "universal values" and so on are not neutral and factual. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 09:35, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

09:20:03, 11 June 2014 review of submission by Bloosteak
What is the best method for establishing notability in a video game? The specific genre I'm dealing with is dancing games such as dance central, dance dance revolution, and dance evolution. For example in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dance_Evolution is the fact that they were at E3 the part that makes the game notable?

What about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliffhanger_(video_game)?

I do have third party sources that talk about DANZ BASE, but I'm not sure if that's what makes a video game notable.

Thanks

Bloosteak (talk) 09:20, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * To evidence the notability of a video game you need to add multiple, independent, reliable sources to the article. See WikiProject Video games/Sources for an extensive list of sources that are normally considered 'reliable' for this purpose. Bellerophon talk to me  17:05, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

09:26:23, 11 June 2014 review of submission by Stats sanx
Hi My request for creating a page on data editing keeps getting rejected and I get comments saying that the topic is discussed on pages which does not discuss this. Is there anything else I can do to get my page accepted? Thanks Stats_sanx Stats sanx (talk) 09:26, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I have re-submitted your article for review again as the previous review was not very thorough. I have also changed the page name to reflect the difference between Data editing and what you are writing about. I am waiting for another reviewer to come and give a second opinion. Bellerophon talk to me  17:08, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

09:28:24, 11 June 2014 review of submission by Fredrikstang
Hi, I don't know if I have filled in this question part right, I have to admit I find wikipedia very complicated. I recently tried to set up a wikipedia page about the Standing Commission of the Red Cross and Red Crescent, but after almost two months waiting for a review it was declined due to copyright issues. I have written a email (based on a template letter on copyright permission I found on wikipedia) to the Standing Commission asking for permission to use sentences and paraphrase some of their website in order to make a wikipedia page about them (I also sent what my text would be when it would be put up on wikipedia). I received an email in return saying that I was granted permission to use their website and text, but what I am now wondering is what do I do next? How can I set up the wikipedia page again and show that I have permission to use copyrighted material without editors (?)/wikipedia declining it or deleting it? Thank you very much for your time and I hope there is a solution to this. Fredrikstang (talk) 09:28, 11 June 2014 (UTC) Fredrikstang (talk) 09:28, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * You need to follow the instructions at WP:DCM. Basically, you need to email proof of permission to one of Wikipedia's OTRS agents. Having permission to reproduce the text does not guarantees that it will not need to be rewritten to some degree. All Wikipedia articles must comply with our policy on writing from a neutral point of view. Bellerophon talk to me  16:59, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

12:43:42, 11 June 2014 review of submission by Andre2273
Andre2273 (talk) 12:43, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello Andre, your submission Draft:Magalhaes Brothers was declined for the reasons given in the pink box at the top of that page. Click on the links in the decline reason to learn more. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 12:45, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

13:11:06, 11 June 2014 review of submission by Nmwalsh
I have submitted this article three times and so far it is not accepted. Can you tell me what I should do to get it published? I have made sure that it does not read like an advertisement and it is written from a neutral perspective. So far I can only offer one reference from an independent source which mentions the company. We cannot find any more.

Nmwalsh (talk) 13:11, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * If there is only one independent source that discusses the company, then it is not yet notable by Wikipedia's standards so we cannot have an article about it. Note that sources do not have to be online. Printed sources like newspapers are fine too. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 13:31, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

14:25:59, 11 June 2014 review of submission by AndrewCharalambous
AndrewCharalambous (talk) 14:25, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Posted on behalf of Andrew Charalambous by J.rox jim at suryalondon.com

Hi

I am new to wikipedia when it comes to submissions

My article was rejected by JustBerry and the reasoning given was that it was an attempt to be humorous, rather than factual, or a hoax, it is neither.

Can this please be looked at again, as i feel the article is being unfairly censored.

if proof is required to my identity, let me know what you require.

Additionally, if there is a section which you feel is out of turn, please let me know and we can discuss further

The Article in question can be found at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AndrewCharalambous/sandbox

Kind Regards

Andrew Charalambous


 * Where do I begin... Firstly, Mr Charalambous (or whoever is acting in your behalf) Wikipedia actively discourages Autobiographies, for reasons explained at WP:AUTOBIO. Secondly, Wikipedia has a policy of writing balanced articles that discuss a subject impartially. Indeed, our neutral point of view policy is one of the founding principles of Wikipedia. Biographical articles should include facts about the person in question that demonstrate why they are notable enough to be in an encyclopedia, and discuss the balance of their life and work (including the bad bits) according to our policy on biographies of living people. Looking at the references in this submission, it appears Charalambous has received enough media attention to be considered notable per WP:GNG/WP:BASIC, but not as a politician. On that basis, we can have an article on him, but not in its current form. Far from being neutral, the submission reads like a glowing endorsement of Charalambous. More problematic, is that many of the journalistic sources listed do not support this saintly view; some of them are rather critical of Charalambous and his work. Paradoxically, if this article were to be published, we would have to block your user account per our username policy, unless you can prove who you are to one of our OTRS agents. Even then, you would be discouraged from editing an article that is about you. Bellerophon talk to me  16:50, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

15:18:55, June 11, 2014 request for review by Soup&Squiggles
Hello there - I recently attempted to create a page for the CEO of Lionsgate UK, Mr Zygi Kamasa. It came back with an alert that the content was copyrighted. I'm not sure how this is possible and wondered if I could get a fuller explanation. It does appear on his IMDB page as well but that's because I put it there.

Thank you so much for any help in this matter.

Best, Soup&Squiggles Soup&#38;Squiggles (talk) 15:18, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The assumption is that if word-for-word sentences are found elsewhere (other than Wikipedia mirrors) then information was unlawfully copied. Typically if you want to donate content you wrote read WP:DCM. However, if the entity for which you originally wrote asserts copyright of that material then Wikipedia likely can't use it. Alternatively, re-write the same material but in different wording. You might consider the reward board for help. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 05:16, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

15:50:19, 11 June 2014 review of submission by Tweetsmarshal
I have tried severally to create a page for a skoolcheckout application, all to no avail, cus it keeps getting deleted. I've used the sandbox thingy to request for approval, which was also was disproved. What next do I do? The application is authentic, as I have used it myself.Tweetsmarshal (talk) 15:50, 11 June 2014 (UTC) Tweetsmarshal (talk) 15:50, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Note: Article went straight into mainspace, not AfC. It is presently listed for deletion at Articles for deletion/Skoolcheckout. Bellerophon talk to me  17:19, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

17:41:18, 11 June 2014 review of submission by Roxannereid
This article on super prime real estate has not been approved several times, and just wondering if can get some more detailed feedback on this and how it can be made better for approval. Perhaps the way it's written or maybe the formatting is incorrect? There are several resources to back up the definition, so figuring it must be something else being done wrong. Thanks!

Roxannereid (talk) 17:41, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * If you used inline citations (WP:REFB) then it would be possible to see which of the facts in your article are based on which of the sources. The first of your sources I looked at did not mention the phrase "super prime" at all, which is not exactly encouraging. The heavy use of "reports" is also concerning, as these tend to be issued in order to hype something. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:00, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

18:33:17, 11 June 2014 review of draft by MCelentano
MCelentano (talk) 18:33, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi, how do I view an article I've created? I just submitted one for review and I looked under "Contributions" and all it has is all the times I've edited the page before I submitted it for review.

Thanks, Morgan — Preceding unsigned comment added by MCelentano (talk • contribs)


 * Click on the link Draft:Hollywood and Swine on that page (or indeed here), and it will take you to that page. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:42, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Also, do not be too discouraged if it is declined at first. The lengthy piece in the Guardian is a strong indication that it is most likely notable. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:03, 11 June 2014 (UTC)