Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2014 September 15

= September 15 =

Request on 07:21:44, 15 September 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by Skandaleas
Hello Matthew Vanitas, I appreciate your time to assist with the WP requirements. I have been studying the procedures, still it seems too difficult to proceed. I will do the best I can within the next few days, perhaps to make it easier so that the name of our company, MWA, Inc. will be launched on WP.

Thanks again.

Yanno Skandaleas

Skandaleas (talk) 07:21, 15 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Your words tell us that you have a conflict of interest. YOu need to be especially careful over tone and references when drafting this piece. Fiddle   Faddle  11:34, 15 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi -  appears to be unavailable at this time. I'll make an attempt to explain the problem(s) with your draft Mykonos Windmills America. First of all, the draft in present shape, doesn't appear to be meeting our notability guideline, which seeks significant coverage in multiple secondary, independent and reliable sources. You should find reliable sources that are independent of your company and discuss the company in some detail, as such coverage in newspapers, magazines, books, journals, reputable online blogs, etc. Failing notability, will make the draft unsuitable for inclusion.


 * Next, we do only write what already has been written in reliable sources, in our own words retaining the meaning of the original, -in a neutral tone. And, to make it in comliance with Verifiability policy, we do cite same the source(s) after the line, we derived from. Wikipedia referencing for beginners guide may help you to understand, 'how to cite a source'.


 * Just fix these, and your draft will be eligible for inclusion and may be moved to Wikipedia articles space anytime, thereafter. If your company doesn't the meet the notability guideline at this time, I'll advise you to try again some time later. Anupmehra  - Let's talk!  11:56, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Request on 14:35:28, 15 September 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by Gcstrong
Hi -- I had an article submission declined, and was directed to read comments of the reviewer. HOWEVER, I have been unable to locate the comments -- where do I find/access reviewers comments?

Gcstrong (talk) 14:35, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * The reviewer left comments on the draft. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 15:45, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

16:20:28, 15 September 2014 review of submission by Clr65109
My article was approved, but now it says that may not meet notability guide lines. I have four sources and its a very short article. Please help! Thanks. The article is called "A Leading Man."

Clr65109 (talk) 16:20, 15 September 2014 (UTC)


 * The only thing that will ever help an article is more sources. We require references from significant coverage about the entity, and independent of it, and in WP:RS please. See WP:42. As the reviewer who accepted the draft I still believe it to be suitable for the main article space. It seems another editor disagrees. They have a right to do so, and I will not revert their banner addition. Another reviewer or any other editor may or may not choose to do so. As general advice, find more valid references. And yes, I appreciate that may be tough with this article. A useful approach is for you to discuss it with the editor who placed the notice,.
 * Such notices indicate a concern, not necessarily a fatal concern, with the article. They tend to be a warning of a potential nomination for deletion, so some work is required. That work need not be performed by you, but I suggest you do it. Fiddle   Faddle  19:53, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Greetings, I was notified through Wikipedia that I was mentioned here.
 * I am an active editor with WikiProject Asian Americans, and stumbled onto this new article due to to addition of a link to this article at multiple articles under the WikiProjects preview. There were various issues with the new content including WP:NOTPROMO, WP:LISTPEOPLE, verifiability using reliable source(s), and WP:PRIMARY.
 * I am concerned that this article is notable per WP:NFILM
 * It has not been widely distributed and has "received full-length reviews by two or more nationally known critics".
 * It is not historically notable.
 * It has not received a major award of excellence, such as an Oscar.
 * It has not been preserved in a national archive
 * it is not "taught" as a subject at an accredited university or college with a notable film program.
 * The subject of the film is interesting, but as an editor, I cannot take that into account. At this time I am not taking this article to WP:AFD because following the wide release it might meet the first part, so although IMHO this article falls under WP:TOOSOON, I am willing to give it time to mature.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 04:36, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

17:28:34, 15 September 2014 review of submission by DDlb5
I wanted this to be a draft to work on in my sandbox but it is appearing live on the internet. What do I need to do to fix it? And why did that happen so I don't make the same mistake again?

DDlb5 (talk) 17:28, 15 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Please be more specific about your concern. What do you mean by "Live on the internet"? It is not a WIkipedia article yet; it sits in your sandbox. You use your browser to edit it and others can also see it. If that is the thing that perplexes you it is a normal thing. Fiddle   Faddle  19:45, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

I guess I am confused. When I did my first wiki page it was labeled as a draft and I worked on it in my sandbox. I don't remember anyone being able to google it and have it come up before I was finished. This time, I can google the person and my "draft" comes up. I was under the impression it stayed private until I finished or am I just confused on how this works? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DDlb5 (talk • contribs) 21:21, 15 September 2014 (UTC)


 * The question is, does it matter? Fiddle   Faddle  22:12, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Well, I guess it does to me. I would rather have a complete article that is well written out in the public domain than a draft that isn't finished. Also, how does it keep from someone deleting it since I haven't inserted references yet, etc? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DDlb5 (talk • contribs) 01:08, 16 September 2014 (UTC)


 * All drafts are publicly visible and also editable by anyone. However, considerable leeway is provided as to what Draft pages can contain, on the understanding that they are intended to become articles at some point in the future. Normally Draft pages are only deleted if they contain particularly serious problems such as copyright violations or personal attacks, or if they have not been edited for six months or more. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 16:44, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I suspect t might be a foible of the User namespace vs the Draft: namespace, and settings for search engines to index/noindex the namespace. BUt I have no definitive answer. Fiddle   Faddle  17:33, 16 September 2014 (UTC)


 * I have asked knowledgeable folk for a definitive answer. We await with interest. Fiddle   Faddle  18:06, 16 September 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm no expert, but if it is already being indexed, it is difficult to remove from the search engines that are indexing it, until their "crawlers" have re-searched and not found it, which can take several days. If it is entirely your own work, copy-paste the article to a different user-page (I suggest a clearly different title), add  to the top of the new page, and delete the old page. Unlike moving the page, this leaves no redirect, so anyone using the search-engine link will be led to a blank page. - Arjayay (talk) 19:27, 16 September 2014 (UTC)


 * A definitive answer is here. Fiddle   Faddle  21:57, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

18:07:48, 15 September 2014 request for review by Dj1mitchell
I'm new to this process and I would like to know why my article was declined. I did quite a bit of research on this and believe there are merits to this short, but interesting definition.

Dj1mitchell (talk) 18:07, 15 September 2014 (UTC)


 * No merits whatsoever in its current from. It lacks any referencing and appears to be an entirely non notable neologism. Please actually look at your draft and you will see the reason there. I wonder where your 'quite a but of research' was performed. There are no Ghits that I can see for your definition. Fiddle   Faddle  19:40, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

18:25:43, 15 September 2014 review of submission by Robmm.diks
Dear all, I am new to the wiki world. I have written a new wiki (Allanblakcia Oil) and submitted this. This wiki was previously submitted by user AlexanderCram and deleted because of errors. Where can I see whether the submission was OK including the title ? How do i correcspond to the editor ? Thanks Rob

Robmm.diks (talk) 18:25, 15 September 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm not at all sure what you are asking since you seem to have moved the draft into main article space yourself. Now it must fend for itself. Fiddle   Faddle  19:33, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Request on 19:21:00, 15 September 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by Black Yodel No.1
I received a message from Joe Decker saying that my article "Black Yodel No.1/Mike Johnson, Country Music's No.1 Black Yodeler" had been declined because it contained copyrighted material. Please identify the copyrighted material[s].

Mike Johnson

Black Yodel No.1 (talk) 19:21, 15 September 2014 (UTC)


 * The deletion rationale says that http://www.mattgalligan.com/genre_Country/genre_Traditional_Country/album_MIKE_JOHNSON_Black_Yodel_No_1_The_Song_The_songwriter.html is the source of the material. Fiddle   Faddle  19:28, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

23:48:02, 15 September 2014 request for review by Emc25
Then, copy and paste this code in the big input box below that:

Could someone please review Zoe_Tryon and offer any feedback? Is 'honorable Zoe Tryon' necessary?

Thank you very much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emc25 (talk • contribs) 23:48, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

23:49:26, 15 September 2014 request for review by Emc25 Then, copy and paste this code in the big input box below that:

Could someone please review Zoe_Tryon and offer any feedback? Is 'honorable Zoe Tryon' necessary?

Thank you very much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emc25 (talk • contribs) 23:49, 15 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Please do click the submit link and submit it. Someone will be along to review it as soon as a reviewer with the requisite skill chooses to take it on
 * We eschew honorifics, so drop that anyway. Fiddle   Faddle  18:11, 16 September 2014 (UTC)