Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2014 September 3

= September 3 =

11:04:02, 3 September 2014 review of submission by George.wyngaardt
Hi,

I have been trying to create a page on a South African company called Santam, I find it unbelievable that Wikipedia has information on smaller companies based overseas but yet it refuses to accept information on a large and proudly South African company. The following editor (JamesBWatson )has deleted by previous submissions deeming it as Unambiguous advertising which I believe is completely inaccurate. Initially I was unfamiliar with Wikipedia submission guidelines however after several hours of research, I now understand how to submit credible, unbiased yet useful information.

My latest submission has been stripped down to just facts, there are however a few interesting facts that I had to leave out due to my concerns regarding what the previous editor flagged as being "promotional content". https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Santam&oldid=623991857

Please forgive my frustration, it's just that I see some level of inconsistency here. Sanlam was able to create a Wikipedia page but when you look at the context of the submission it seems a bit unjust that this information was given the go ahead. I understand that you are not obligated to accepted any of our submissions but please consider the nature of the above mentioned submission without quickly going through a "speed deletion" process.

Regards, George

George.wyngaardt (talk) 11:04, 3 September 2014 (UTC)


 * I shall take a look and leave comments on the draft. I may decline or accept it. PLease watch the draft for details. Fiddle   Faddle  11:39, 3 September 2014 (UTC)


 * ✅ with caveats on talk page. This was a borderline decision, and my rationale is to allow the community at large to improve it. Fiddle   Faddle  12:02, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Good decision User:Timtrent - It is indeed a major "blue chip" company in South Africa. I've done a little cleaning up and will alert WikiProject South Africa about the new page that needs some TLC. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:53, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * It meets the criterion of being able to be verified as notable, though the article itself is poor and suffering from a major dose of COI. There is nothing there at present, save for a framework. I am nervous, though, of folk attempting to put PR spin on it, so good decision to get more eyes watching it. Fiddle   Faddle  08:00, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

12:39:36, 3 September 2014 review of draft by Faith favours me
how do I upload photos to my article? Faith favours me (talk) 12:39, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Your account isn't autoconfirmed yet, so you can't upload images until then. When your account is four days old, read our instructions on uploading images. I declined your draft because it doesn't have reliable sources. Try using this, this, this, this, and this. You want to rely on books, newspapers, and scholarly journal articles rather than random websites. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 14:50, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Request on 12:46:35, 3 September 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by Inventicoffee
Inventicoffee (talk) 12:46, 3 September 2014 (UTC)


 * See Draft:Inventi coffee to see why your submission was declined. Click the links there for ideas on how to improve it. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 12:56, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

13:22:51, 3 September 2014 review of submission by Sudhirsraval
I had submitted the content at the page with name "Sudhir S Raval".

The review was negative with the reason of copyright infringement. I have pasted the reply below.

"09:37, 3 September 2014 RHaworth (talk | contribs) deleted page Draft:Sudhir S Raval (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of http://sudhirsraval.com/)" But, the person "Sudhir S Raval" as discussed in wikipedia page is same as the person with URL http://sudhirsraval.com. I am not doing any copyright breach. I am creating the page for the person who is having the persona bio-website at sudhirsraval.com.

I am developer of the the site at www.sudhirsraval.com.

Do I need to cite or provide reference to the website www.sudhirsraval.com

Pl. suggest as to what should I do so that I can re-submit.

Sudhirsraval (talk) 13:22, 3 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Please see Donating copyright material. That site says "© Copyright 2014 · Sudhir S. Raval" and we are protecting the copyright owner's rights. No-one has the faintest idea who you are, and we will not assume that any similarity of name means you are the same person. Just imagine how angry you would be to find your copyright trampled all over.
 * WIth regard to that website, I suggest most strongly that the material there is entirely unsuitable for Wikipedia. The gentleman does not appear to be notable from what is said there.
 * Please also read WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. There are many good reasons not to write one here, assuming this to be you about yourself. If you must go ahead your references must be impeccable and your prose WP:NPOV. Me? I'd give the idea up. If you want an advert then promote your web site better. Just not here. Fiddle   Faddle  13:53, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

18:43:16, 3 September 2014 request for review by 72.229.28.45
I'm trying to introduce a few new people to Wikipedia's database. Unfortunately, I'm terribly inept. The information I posted never made it to review and subsequently I was rejected. This inclusion may not be worth it, but I would like to try. Please advise.

72.229.28.45 (talk) 18:43, 3 September 2014 (UTC)


 * The best place to start would be to click the links in the rejection reason provided at Draft:Brian P. Katz to see what is required for a new Wikipedia article. Then possibly you could start a draft on a topic that meets the requirements, if your existing topic does not. A person that does not have any coverage other than on IMDB is probably not yet notable by Wikipedia's standards. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 12:26, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

21:40:20, 3 September 2014 review of submission by HPCarver
HPCarver (talk) 21:40, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello! Our submission for our company, Matrix Capital Markets Group has been deleted due to copyright violation. Can anyone tell me where in the text the violation occurred so that I may correct it? I cannot get access as the submission was removed. I appreciate any help. Thanks, Honor


 * Since you copied http://www.matrixcmg.com/ you really ought to know what it said. Fiddle   Faddle  07:32, 4 September 2014 (UTC)