Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2015 April 23

= April 23 =

14:19:35, 23 April 2015 review of submission by Chauncy1
How can the Wikipedia encyclopedia page "Edwin Hugh Lundie" be recognized, or referenced, from another Wikipedia page when it is referred to there as "Edwin Lundie?"

Chauncy1 (talk) 14:19, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


 * You can use a piped link to do that. You would simply insert

Edwin Lundie
 * into the article. In the future, if you have questions like this, they might be better suited for the Teahouse, since we deal with Articles for Creation questions here. Thanks, wia (talk) 14:24, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

14:59:39, 23 April 2015 review of submission by 66.234.239.195
My new page was declined for publication for seeming as an advertisement. Please see links to the following page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodega_Catena_Zapata

The only difference between my page and theirs is the number of citation links at the bottom. It still reads as an advertisement. Kaiken is one of the most respected Argentinean wineries in the world, with a founding winemaker who is also known and respected throughout the global winemaking community.

Please advise.

Thank you, Feast PR

66.234.239.195 (talk) 14:59, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment: I believe the article in question is Draft:Kaiken Wines. wia (talk) 15:02, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


 * IP editor, please do not forget to log in when using Wikipedia.
 * I have left a comment on the draft. Fiddle   Faddle  15:36, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Bodega Catena Zapata is now substantially improved. Fiddle   Faddle  22:30, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

15:12:56, 23 April 2015 review of submission by Alissa.lauren
Hi Wikifriends. I am attempting to create a wiki about an event called Jam Cruise. I have been denied twice for the article for the language not sounding neutral enough. I have 21 sources from reputable news sources (NY Times), music magazines (Rolling Stone, Billboard) and music-based news sites (JamBase). I do not know what else to edit out without loosing the details of the event, as it entails more than music performances. If anyone can give me advice on this, it would be greatly appreciated! Here is the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jam_Cruise Thank you! Alissa.lauren (talk) 15:12, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Alissa.lauren (talk) 15:12, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


 * The article needs copyediting to fit in with Wikipedia's style, but any event that has dedicated coverage in Billboard and Rolling Stone should be perfectly acceptable, so I have passed your submission. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  15:31, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

17:27:58, 23 April 2015 review of submission by Mctrixie2015
Hi, please can you elaborate as to why this article was declined? I believe the person in question is notable enough so I don't think that is the problem. Is it the references? If so what needs improving about them? Mctrixie2015 (talk) 17:27, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


 * A great place to start is by asking what was in his mind when he declined it. I suspect he will be best placed to give a great answer. My generic answer is referencing. For a living person we have a high standard of referencing. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is about them, and is independent of them, and is in WP:RS. It seems to me that the sources are not strong enough and that the gentleman may not actually be shown to be notable in our definition of the term.  Fiddle   Faddle  17:41, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

18:05:39, 23 April 2015 review of submission by Frankiev138
my article was rejected for "This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability" im not sure what i can do to fix this. the subject is notable and mentioned as film director on his fathers wiki page. I used his parents wiki pages as a guideline when i wrote the article. what specifically can i do to get this page approved? Frankiev138 (talk) 18:05, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Rejected is a hard word which implies finality. What we do is push the draft back to you for work, Its an iterative process. Our role as reviewers is to seek to ensure that an article will not immediately be subject to one of our deletion processes when it is accepted. That is why we push it back to the author. We want to accept articles. I'd love to accept this. but, as you see, I have it because the referencing is imperfect. Please enjoy doing the extra work.  Fiddle   Faddle  18:52, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

19:34:09, 23 April 2015 review of submission by Reidinto
How can I fix this article before re-submission? Many of the original reviews and newspaper articles and letters of recognition for Deane Nesbitt's Jr.'s music was before postings to the internet. Finding web links that would help prove noteworthiness and reliable reporting has been made difficult by this lack of web connected source material. However, copies of original documents have been scanned for posting if an appropriate location to link for "reliability" could be recommended? Walt Grealis (listed in Wikipedia's biography of a non-living music hero and Order of Canada co-founder of Canada's Juno Awards) is one such notable reviewer and his news article about Nesbitt's music is available to add credibility to this Nesbitt article. Other paper copies of notable print record are: ·        an article about On the Black Keys and by Ear in the Montreal Gazette (1978) ·        an article about Ocean Rain in the Westmount Examiner (1980), and ·        a crossword puzzle in Montreal Calendar Magazine (1981). Nesbitt's album, Ocean Rain, was awarded to the first five correct solutions drawn from entries. Also is available, the CNE August 28, 2003 Canada Pops Orchestra/ 125th CNE Program of Canadian Summer performance; and, Mote Magazine 8/24/05 review of Everywhere from Here CD. Current airplay with 285 radio stations now playing the Nesbittmusic CDs across the USA as of March 27, 2015 as noted on CML [College Media Journal] World Chart [data is available only by subscription but station printouts are available]. Nesbitt is also a member of Canada's SOCAN [member number 1036735] where regular stats of Canada and USA airplay equates to regular Royalty payments to him for his works. Your advice about the latest Sandbox save would be appreciated. Reidinto (talk) 19:34, 23 April 2015 (UTC)Randall Reid


 * Hi Reidinto you can reference the newspapers, magazines and other publications, but you cannot reference letters or anything else that has not been published before. Please do not upload copies of print articles anywhere because such copies would be illegal as they violate to copyright of the original publisher. To reference newspapers you can use the cite news template and for magazine articles use cite magazine. Just fill in as much detail as you have about the articles; author, publication, article title, date and page number are usually sufficient. See WP:Referencing for beginners for further guidance. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:30, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

21:19:31, 23 April 2015 review of draft by Rudard
I am putting together a submission for which the majority ( or rather, all) of the citations are to news articles, primarily in the Philadelphia Daily News and the Philadelphia Inquirer. The only way to access these articles is by going to Newslibrary.com and paying to view them, since they are no longer available through the newspapers' regular search engine. Do you have any suggestion as to how I might be able to include these references? Let me know. Thank you.

Rudard (talk) 21:19, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Deploy Cite news and fill out all the parameters you are able to. Non online sources are 100% fine. Fiddle   Faddle  21:26, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Request on 22:14:14, 23 April 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Taotaomona1977
I am trying to submit an article for creation, Master-at-Arms (United States Navy). Currently I edit the article Master-at-Arms, specifically the U.S. Navy portion. I am continuously getting flags that the article as a whole is not globalized or there are too much US information and not enough balance. Recently I submitted the draft again for approval but was told that it was denied because it existed under the article Shore Patrol. This is not accurate as the two, Shore Patrol and Master-at-Arms, are totally different. I would like to still continue this effort to make this a separate article. I recommend keeping the Master-at-Arms article, but removing a majority of the information for the U.S. Navy (keeping some basics), but creating and linking the Master-at-Arms (United States Navy) article to the existing article. Another point that I want to argue is that the U.S. Army Military Police and U.S. Air Force Security Force both have their own article. Taotaomona1977 (talk) 22:14, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Taotaomona1977 (talk) 22:14, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


 * It seems to me that WP:AFC is the wrong vehicle. Build consensus for the separate article where you have started, at Talk:Master-at-arms, and be patient. Ask people at relevant WIkiprojects to comment on your proposal. Alternatively, be bold and simply perform the split, documenting what you are doing on the talk pages of both the source and the split out article. Fiddle   Faddle  22:24, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Request on 23:49:13, 23 April 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Katy.Zisk
I am a publicist at Guttman Associates and my client is Actress, Model Faith Picozzi. She is very well known and has hundreds of press breaks, editorials and credentials to verify our urgency of her having her Wikipedia pageKaty.Zisk (talk) 23:49, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

I am Faith Picozzi's publicist and read every requirement to ensure my submission follows all guidelines. To make easier for review, here is the link to her page submission: [ https://www.dropbox.com/s/wyj9mo0c3b31hvb/Faith%20Picozzi-%20Wikipedia%20Page.zip?dl=0 ]Katy.Zisk (talk) 23:49, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Katy.Zisk (talk) 23:49, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


 * If you would like to submit a draft, the place to do it is at the Articles for Creation Wizard. Please follow the steps at the Wizard and add the text yourself. It is worth mentioning two things:
 * the Articles for Creation process is just that—a process. It's not an instantaneous thing. We are happy to help but only insofar as submissions comply with Wikipedia policies. There is no guarantee that the article will be accepted immediately, or indeed at all.
 * take a look at Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy. Writing a Wikipedia article about a subject to which you have some professional or personal connection is strongly discouraged. wia (talk) 00:04, 24 April 2015 (UTC)


 * for the many reasons stated on the draft. Looks like WP:VANISPAMCRUFTISEMENT to me. Wikipedia does not exist for you to publicise your client. Fiddle   Faddle  08:52, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
 * We do not care about your urgency at all, you know. We care only about the quality of articles. You had better go back to your manager and tell them that it will only be accepted if your client passes our criteria, and this will happen when the draft is ready. You may have read every requirement but you have not complied with many of them. You have a lot of work to do. As a paid professional editor you need to show far greater adherence to our policies than you have already. Fiddle   Faddle  09:04, 24 April 2015 (UTC)