Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2015 August 29

= August 29 =

Request on 14:42:24, 29 August 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Lucalove2
Hello, I'm trying to make a Wikipedia page for my Frisbee team Long Hill in Cambridge. I've put a lot of work into the page and as most of our references our in Facebook witch Wikipedia cant accept there is little else I can reference. Ive very annoyed/fustrated as I have done all I can to make the page look well made and it keeps getting rejected for what I think is no good reason. Once it is published there are other people that can add more to the page and make it better but they can't do that yet.

I'm annoyed as I think that anyone who knows enough about a subject should be allowed to write a Wikipedia article about it and I think the rules are a little strict and learner unfriendly.

Many thanks

Luca

Lucalove2 (talk) 14:42, 29 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Lucalove2, the issue is that your references do not prove that the team is notable. Basically if no mainstream newspapers or magazines (not the school newsletter, Facebook, personal blogs, etc.) have ever published an article about the team - or at least a few paragraphs about the team within an article about the sport - it is simply impossible to write a proper Wikipedia article about it. There are many things in the world that are just too unknown to ever have an article in Wikipedia. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:27, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

16:18:48, 29 August 2015 review of submission by Halls4521

 * User:Halls4521/sandbox

Thank you for allowing the creation of the article for "Just One Last Look". Is it alright for me to free up my sandbox now and "de-link" it from the article? Also, the article's history actually starts at August 14 2014; the dates before it are sandbox stuff.--Halls4521 (talk) 16:18, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Halls4521 (talk) 16:18, 29 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I have cancelled the redirect from your sandbox to the newly created article for you, so feel free to use it again. For future note, if a draft has been moved out of your sandbox to draft-space, you can cancel the redirect and start using your sandbox again straight away. -  Happysailor  (Talk) 18:47, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

18:30:38, 29 August 2015 review of submission by PjP007
I'm the official publicist of professional (youth) football player Mink Peeters (of Real Madrid). I've been asked by him, and his manager, to write an article on him for Wikipedia. I've done so, and have tried to post is, but it's declined! I think that's ridiculous. I'm wondering how we ever can get an article about Mink Peeters on Wikipedia. We anyway will not accept any article on him by an outsider!

PjP007 (talk) 18:30, 29 August 2015 (UTC)


 * You have a conflict of interest in creating this football players page, and as such, should step back from creating the article in question. For note, you may have also violated Wikipedia's Terms of Use for Paid editing as you were asked to create it as his publicist.
 * Articles can be created by anyone, on anyone, and you don't have the right to not accept an article created by someone else.
 * To clarify the decline, your draft was declined because you failed to show significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject to show notability. Specifically for a sportsperson, he must pass the notability guidelines for footballers. Lastly, youtube is not a valid reference. - Happysailor  (Talk) 18:56, 29 August 2015 (UTC)


 * You claim that I may have violated Wikipedia's Terms of Use, since I would have been paid for writing it, but I haven't been paid for it at all, and I blame you for suggesting that, without any proof! (It was merely a kind favour.)
 * I just wrote that article, and tried to post it, to prevent that someone else writes, and posts an initial article that's based on incorrect information. Anyway, if Wikipedia doesn't appreciate my eventual contribution, let's just forget about it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by PjP007 (talk • contribs) 12:10, 31 August 2015 (UTC)


 * In your own words, as his official publicist (sic), you're being paid to publicise him, which is why I said may have been in violation. As long as you disclose your Conflict of Interest (which you have partly) you're fine (though you're still discouraged from editing articles you have a COI with).
 * As I said though, articles can be created by anyone (including yourself), but MUST be sourced to show significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject to show notability. If you don't do that, then the article won't be accepted. We rely on published sources for our information, so unless there are reliable sources out there with the wrong information, the article should be correct. - Happysailor  (Talk) 18:42, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, happysailor, for clearing this up. I'm afraid I'm not familiar with editing, and posting articles at Wikipedia. I therefore do not know how to prove that the information has been sourced, and is correct (as obviously is required). Does this link help on that?: http://www.realmadrid.com/en/football/academy/under-19/mink--martin-peeters — Preceding unsigned comment added by PjP007 (talk • contribs) 14:03, 2 September 2015 (UTC)