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= August 30 =

06:46:15, 30 August 2015 review of submission by RachR310
Hi, I would like some advice on how I can edit my article to better address the reviewer's comments. Would appreciate help on identifying lines that have peacock terms or do not have a neutral tone and any advice you can give on how to change these. I have looked at other pages linked to SMU such as the page on 'Lee Kong Chian School of Business' and I feel like the tone and sources I've used are similar so I'm not sure why my draft has been rejected. I'm really new at this so any help would be appreciated. RachR310 (talk) 06:46, 30 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Many Wikipedia articles exist which do not meet the desirable standards... this is partly because new articles could be created without being reviewed, up until a few years ago. So when using an existing article as a comparison or an example to work from, it would be better to use a recognised Wikipedia Good Article. You can find lists of these recognised Good Articles in the various headings and sub-sections to be found after scrolling down the page at Good articles. A Draft need not be quite so comprehensive or comprehensively referenced as these to be accepted, but they can help to give an idea of the sort of sources, sourcing, and tone that is required.


 * Anyway, for good or ill, your Draft has now been accepted and is at SMU School of Accountancy for the time being. It has been nominated for deletion. That is an entirely separate process and its fate will be decided at Articles for deletion/SMU School of Accountancy. If you need any help dealing with that process, you may consider Asking A Question at Teahouse/Questions. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 22:19, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

15:20:21, 30 August 2015 review of submission by 86.8.28.175
I submitted a draft about my brother but I'm not sure why the page rejected as unsuitable?

Ex-Wikipedian, Ian McAllister, told me that a Fellow at Cambridge University was notable enough for Wikipedia due to his academic achievements. He asked me to include links to all his hundreds of publications so that's what I did.

I also included a paragraph about my brother repeatedly being World Tiddlywinks champion, but am happy to delete that if it's off topic.

Please would you advise if there is any other information I should provide? Thank you

86.8.28.175 (talk) 15:20, 30 August 2015 (UTC)


 * What is he notable for? The article says nothing about his work in chemical engineering, though it has an excessively long list of his publicatiions. Maproom (talk) 08:11, 31 August 2015 (UTC)


 * "a Fellow at Cambridge University was notable enough for Wikipedia" sounds like a topic on which would have views, and I hereby invite him to offer an opinion, since we are struggling thus far. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 22:21, 31 August 2015 (UTC)


 * He may be notable, but it needs further evidence, and rewriting. I've declined the article for now--see my comments there. He might also be notable as a Tiddlywinks champion, but I'm no judge of that.  DGG ( talk ) 22:42, 31 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you! A very prompt response, and I am glad to see you also clarified it to "Fellow in a Cambridge college" which is of course the position, not "Fellow at Cambridge University". Or so I think, anyway. For anyone with Tiddlywinks expertise, the Draft in question is Draft:Patrick Barrie. Brother of Patrick, please work on DGG's suggestions which he has mentioned on that page. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 22:52, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

17:35:38, 30 August 2015 review of submission by Jtdailey
Good afternoon. My name is John and I was wondering if the aforementioned page is in the queue for being re-reviewed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:C.O._Simpkins,_Sr It isn't clear to me if it either needs additional edits or perhaps it wasn't correctly resubmitted for re-review and approval.

The submission has gone through two reviews and I addressed the reviewers concerns - the first was about the possibility of copyrighted material and the passages and references were deleted. The second reviewer was concerned that it wasn't sufficiently encyclopedic and had "peacock" phrases. Those were reworked as suggested.

My last edit was two weeks ago and the page doesn't seem to have been re-reviewed •	23:44, 16 August 2015 (diff | hist). . (+22)‎ . . m Draft:C.O. Simpkins, Sr. ‎ (Some minor stylistic changes were made. They were made on top of the more significant edits submitted after the previous review.) (current)

When you have a moment, could you let me know what next steps I might need to take at this time? Thanks for your time and assistance. Jtdailey (talk) 22:00, 30 August 2015 (UTC)Jtdailey (talk)

Jtdailey (talk) 17:35, 30 August 2015 (UTC)


 * This question is about Draft:C.O. Simpkins, Sr., with a final period. (It is very helpful to people here if you give a correct link to the draft that you are asking about.) It is not currently in the queue for review. It still needs a lot of work, including (but not restricted to) correct formatting of the section headers. Look at any other long Wikipedia article to see how section headers and a reference list are done. Maproom (talk) 08:28, 31 August 2015 (UTC)


 * His notability by our rules is from his election to the Louisiana House of Representatives. Try to focus the article on his political career. Avoid general undocumentable statements lie "a calling to address the injustices that faced people of color, ", which are mere puffery. Reformatting the headings is trivial, and not a reason for rejection. The real problem is that the formatting indicates that the material is likely to have been copied from another source, probably  "The Story of Courage, Lest we Forget: Dr. CO Simpkins (part one) available through Amazon.com by Deborah Simpkins-Savage. This is not permitted. Even if you are the author, and donate the material under a free license according to the exact rrquirmeents at WP:DCM, the material would be unsuitable--the detail is way excessive. In particular, remove the long quotations.  Include only significant honors--and each of them must be individually documented by a   third-party independent reliable source. DGG ( talk ) 22:48, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

18:32:34, 30 August 2015 review of submission by TwoQuarters
Hello. I am a first-time editor. I saw many leaders I wanted to develop pages for. This has been a humbling experience and I'm still working on my first one!!! Lots of respect for those who have mastered this!

The Andre Taylor draft is in much better shape now thanks to the help of a couple of experienced Wikipedia editors. Thanks again. Now, I'm trying to figure out how to improve the footnotes/references. The references are all listed but I cannot find details on how to insert reference numbers into the article, when the references have already been listed. Making this even more complicated for me is realizing that I have to change the order slightly to comply with your effort to gives readers an ordered list of references that coincide with the article. For example:

Andre Taylor is an American entrepreneur... (first reference is correct...Business Guru story.)

Early Life and Education... (this is really reference 12 - Graduation-Day Say...)

Career...(after Taylor Insight Worldwide should be reference ) After "sports content and sports related websites" should be references 21. After access to the sports industry should be reference # 16 and 17. After Business Innovator of the Year should be reference # 20 and 21)

In Other Publications... Taylor became a columnist for Community College Entrepreneurship in 2009 and for The Shriver Report in December 2013 (http://shriverreport.org/people/andre-taylor/)

He contributed an article called: "Three Principals for Top Performers," to Medical Tourism Magazine in 2015.

http://www.medicaltourismmag.com/medical-tourism-three-principals-for-top-performers/

In Public Speaking.... Taylor has delivered speeches to conferences.... These are references...1,2,3,4,5, 8,9, 10, 11,

Please help. I think I am almost done with this short and basic page. Just need to understand how to make these kind of edits going forward. TwoQuarters (talk) 18:32, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

TwoQuarters (talk) 18:32, 30 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Have you tried working through any of the methods suggested at Referencing for beginners? Arthur goes shopping (talk) 22:25, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

22:36:15, 30 August 2015 review of submission by Victoria S. Creed
Victoria S. Creed (talk) 22:36, 30 August 2015 (UTC) 22:36:15, 30 August 2015 review of submission by Victoria S. Creed

Victoria S. Creed Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Victoria S. Creed I am a bit dense and don't understand what I should be doing. I have notified my father's students who want to make additions and told them to register and then use edit. I have read all the comments and would like to work on improvements but don't understand the directions in the Draft differences article. I apologize. Victoria S. Creed


 * Hello Victoria. What is a "Draft differences article"?


 * An article you submitted to articles for creation has been accepted for Wikipedia and is now a published Wikipedia article entitled Richard Schanck.


 * The full internet link for that article, which you would give to anyone else who wanted to edit the article, is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Schanck


 * Arthur goes shopping (talk) 23:35, 1 September 2015 (UTC)