Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2015 August 5

= August 5 =

04:06:34, 5 August 2015 review of submission by Olga Rekovskaya
Hello, since I haven't received any reply in July, I will post my question again if you don't mind.

I'm writing about our our ISS Art article which was declined again. Following the advice to refer to reliable secondary sources we've added a reference from Forbes.com - an independent and credible resource. However, the submission was declined again. Therefore, I would like to ask: how many resources do you recommend for the article to be approved? What level of resources should this be? Thanks in advance.

04:15:25, 5 August 2015 review of submission by Victim86


 * The Forbes piece "How To Ace A Job Interview On The Phone" does not even mention ISS Art as far as I can see, so what is its relevance? Arthur goes shopping (talk) 06:36, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for your reply. Indeed, there is no direct mentioning of ISS Art in this article as long as there was the NDA signed betweeen us (as an outsourcing provider) and our customer. All the exclusive ownership rights were handed over to the customer. However, we've negotiated the point about adding the reference to Forbes to our article draft with the customer, and we've got his approval.

And I am still wondering: how many resources do you recommend for the article to be approved? What level of resources should this be? Thank you.


 * As a rule of thumb, normally between three and five sources that are all independent of the subject, reliable, and provide significant coverage. Appearing in lists of things would not normally meet the the significant coverage requirement, and the Forbes material does not seem to either. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 17:38, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

04:15:25, 5 August 2015 review of submission by Victim86
Victim86 04:15, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I have resubmitted the article on Mr Deepak after painstakingly sourcing for more information on him through the internet and fortunately, i manage to find 2 newspaper articles for which the sites have been indicated under "references"

I sincerely hope your office would not reject this article and i believe it is noteworthy of reading and the sources are very reliable.


 * Hi. You want to write about someone you purport to be a criminal and the sources you point to haven't convinced our editors. We can't peddle the scurrilous tales you're pushing at other websites without substantial proof. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 21:31, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

06:15:56, 5 August 2015 review of submission by Rajcurator
I resubmitted my article with reference to reliable sources. However it was declined with below comments:

'This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability—see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing, so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia'.

I can't understand where I am wrong. So please inform me which mentioned source is reliable & which one is not.

Rajcurator (talk) 06:15, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Try reading WP:RS. You've already received multiple comments on this point and I can only assume you refuse to acknowledge this fact. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 21:34, 11 August 2015 (UTC)


 * First of all, Thank You for sparing your time & giving valuable feedback.
 * Actually, I was confused to understand about reliable source & secondary source. Hope, I am understanding little bit of it now.
 * Can you do a fever for me? I would like to make changes in the article & to show you to review and let me know where I am making a mistake. Rajcurator (talk) 04:57, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Please feel free to continue improving your draft. I am on Wikipedia very little so I can't promise to review the draft later. To illustrate the issue, take a look at the draft's sources. You have only one journalistic source, this piece from Business Standard. All it establishes is the new brand ambassador. The rest is a quote from the company's managing director. It doesn't establish other facts as independent research. This piece from Apparel Resources is good, too. You need more sources like that. Right now the coverage is so thin the company fails our notability criteria for businesses. You've done a good job of improving what you started with but you may have to wait a few years until this company really establishes a solid place in the market. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and as such it looks backward at notable subjects; it's not a forward-looking directory. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 05:22, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I really thankful to you for providing useful feedback to me for my draft. You certainly help me to clarify my confusion to reliable source. I again made some changes in my draft. See the below updated one & share your valuable feedback:

Introduction
N Z Seasonal Wear Pvt. Ltd. is an Indian company registered in 2009 & their Corporate Identification Number (CIN) is U17200MH2009PTC192995. . Mr. Dinesh Trivedi is the Managing Director and the company is specialized in manufacturing rain wear.

History
The company was registered in 2009 and grew gradually over the years. It gained ISO 9001:2008 certification for its quality. The company is based in Bhiwandi, Thane & entered into export market.

Image
According to the news published in Business Standard, ABP Live on 29th May, 2014 the company announced Bollywood actor Vivek Oberoi as the official brand ambassador for Zeel Rainwear during a company organized Fashion show in Mumbai. Rajcurator (talk) 09:50, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

10:03:49, 5 August 2015 review of submission by 137.158.240.254
Thank you for your response. I understand what you are saying. The images can be used/ taken from wikipedia in whatever capacity necessary. What I need help with is getting the uploads approved. I can provide any proof you need but please explain to me what I need to do. I have been given permission by the copyright owner to use all the information/images I have used so please explain to me how I need to prove this. 137.158.240.254 (talk) 10:03, 5 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Have you followed the steps at Donating copyrighted materials? What happened when you did? Arthur goes shopping (talk) 06:40, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

11:09:59, 5 August 2015 review of submission by CruisingKitty
Hi, I received a message from PotatoNinja about my references being incorrect and to use footnotes. I corrected them and resubmitted my article but then got a second identical message immediately from Sulferboy. I don;t understand what I need to do to correct the submission. Perhaps someone can explain it. Thanks.

CruisingKitty (talk) 11:09, 5 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I have 'fixed' the template you posted so that the page it refers to is displayed. 220  of  Borg 19:37, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

12:32:58, 5 August 2015 review of submission by Fiona Somerville
Am trying to load a logo for Mischief Theatre I think I've done it correctly but it's hard to tell. I've used the Upload Wizard and edited the Use rationale but it still doesn't appear on the page. Is this because it needs to be approved first? Please could you advise?

Thanks Fiona Somerville (talk) 12:32, 5 August 2015 (UTC)


 * You have correctly uploaded the logo at File:Mischief Theatre logo.png. Now you need to add it to the existing article Mischief Theatre. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 06:42, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

16:01:21, 5 August 2015 review of submission by Blessingway Mark
Hi. Thanks for any help. I'm not exactly sure what to fix. I used citations and put them in a References section. Can you give more specific directions to fix the article. Thanks! B Blessingway Mark (talk) 16:01, 5 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Your Draft several times describes the subject (a living person) as a recovering alcoholic. Such statements are considered controversial, and must therefore have an inline citation to a reliable source immediately after them.


 * I am not sure whether the subject of your Draft would pass Wikipedia's notability requirements... simple summary at VRS... even if the above problem is fixed. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 06:45, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

16:51:54, 5 August 2015 review of submission by Ahurvitz2
I have submitted three drafts of a biography for a living person, Roberta Grossman, which have all been rejected by Wikipedia. The subject is a writer/director of multiple, award winning, documentary films which have been shown everywhere from MSNBC to PBS to dozens of international film festivals.

Now I have been asked again by Ms. Grossman to include awards, more links, and other external reviews of her films in an attempt to "boost" her chances of being included in Wikipedia.

Please tell me if I am on the right track and exactly what is missing from my biography submission.

Thank you. Ahurvitz2 (talk) 16:51, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Just passing through, having never edited this page before, I have 'fixed' the draft pages template (above) so it displays correctly. One thing I noticed about your draft was you are 'embedding' external links in the text. Please convert these into wp:references. The earlier comment from  "Still lacking inline citations in places. Needs cleanup for typos and grammar. External links at the bottom seem to just be random and unorganized.", still applies.
 * •You need to move the sources out of the references section, and place them into the text after the fact/s to which they apply. 220  of  Borg 19:24, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

18:41:59, 5 August 2015 review of submission by Mmocalis
I'm wondering as to how many more reliable sources you would need in order to approve this article? It was suggested in the comments when my article was rejected that they need more sources. I'm wondering for this kind of article how many sources would I need? If someone could help me out I'd gladly appreciate it.

Mmocalis (talk) 18:41, 5 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Three or four is often the sensible minimum, provided that they are all independent, reliable, and provide significant coverage of the topic. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 06:46, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

22:00:53, 5 August 2015 review of submission by Steven Yvan
I have submitted a translation for the entry "Steve Ellner" in Spanish but am not sure whether I posted it correctly. Please let me know if I need to do anything else or whether I should just wait until a decision on this proposed entry is made.Steven Yvan (talk) 22:00, 5 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure which page you are referring to.


 * The Spanish-language Wikipedia is at http://es.wikipedia.org/


 * The English-language Wikipedia article Steve Ellner is in mainspace and has been accepted. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 06:47, 7 August 2015 (UTC)