Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2015 December 30

= December 30 =

Request on 14:46:56, 30 December 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Georgesalamoun120
I created a page that was declined i think it is due to the lack of references however you can find a lot of references on google but i dont know how to insert them

Georgesalamoun120 (talk) 14:46, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Hello, and welcome to the Help Desk! You are correct; the page was declined because the draft does not show the notability of the subject, in large part due to a lack of solid references. References should be from reliable sources that are independent of the subject, so one's Facebook/LinkedIn/personal website don't count. Reputable magazines, journals, books or news sources (whether online or offline) are a good place to start your search.
 * Once you've found a good reference, you can add it to the article just after the claim it is supporting by putting it within "ref tags", like this: . You can learn more about adding references to your draft by reading WP:REFB and watching the video on that page. Thanks, /wiae   /tlk  16:13, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Request on 16:11:20, 30 December 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Bloggerchandra
Bloggerchandra (talk) 16:11, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Hello, do you have a specific question about your sandbox page? /wiae   /tlk  16:14, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Request on 17:39:35, 30 December 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Canyonred
Hello,

I'm just looking for assistance on what I need to improve to get this article submission accepted. Based on my understanding of the notability guidelines, the subject seems to fit the "notable" category perfectly. Do you have any specific suggestions for what needs to improve (what sources are weak, what sources to look for, language changes)?

Thanks.

Canyonred (talk) 17:39, 30 December 2015 (UTC)


 * yes I think the page proves notability. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:57, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Request on 18:48:49, 30 December 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Cool.leena raj
Cool.leena raj (talk) 18:48, 30 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia articles must be based on what is published before. So we need references to show wehre the information came from. For example is there a newspaper article about the  Hannover Messe 2015 award?  Or perhaps there is a website with a few paragraphs bout the pavillion and its design that you can use as a reference. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:47, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

19:39:15, 30 December 2015 review of submission by BePowerTech
My page was not approved for a couple of reasons. One because my username is the same as the page name. How can I change my username? Two because the page doesn't have enough reference information. But how can I add more if it is about OUR company? BePowerTech (talk) 19:39, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
 * To change username go here: Changing username/Simple. You will need information published by independent other people, such as those that write newspapers or magazines. 22:42, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

20:04:34, 30 December 2015 review of submission by Marisaadams
Hello. Initially, my article was rejected as it did not have enough notable references (though there are noticeably more references in my entry than in others with similar content). I added some additional references to the page; however, it was rejected again. I would like some assistance and clarification.

Thank you Marisaadams (talk) 20:04, 30 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Comments left on draft page. MatthewVanitas (talk) 09:09, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

20:15:57, 30 December 2015 review of submission by Aupsy
{{SAFESUBST:Void| Hello, I wanted to know how to change the title of an existing Wikipedia article. Instead of creating a new article for Visual Studio Online, we'd like to change the Team Foundation Server article to Visual Studio Online (They're the same products basically, but we want to lead with Visual Studio Online instead) Aupsy (talk) 20:15, 30 December 2015 (UTC)Ayush
 * Nornally to change the name you would use the move link on the page. However at the moment Visual Studio Online is a redirect to a paragraph in Microsoft Visual Studio, so it cannot be simply renamed, without deleting the redirect first.  However I would seriously question that Team Foundation Server is the samenthing. So I would suggest having the two different articles. You can go to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Visual_Studio_Online&action=edit and edit the page with your new text, or you could add {{db-g6|Delete to make way for move of Team Foundation Server}} . However before the move I suggest that you start a discussion on the Talk:Team Foundation Server page to see if there is a consensus to move. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:33, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

21:08:49, 30 December 2015 review of submission by Vicgrout
I refer to the rejection of this submission: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Vic_Grout Thank you for this information. But can I have some clarification please? I understand the principle of the rejection but not the specific application. I believe the criteria for ‘notability’ is met by the subject by direct comparison with other academics (Full ‘professor’ is the highest rank of UK academic – not a general description) so I’m assuming I have to do more work on the referencing? This is where I could use some help. I’ve used as a reference/starting point, this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Scott_%28academic%29 This has a single reference, which is exactly the same type of independent university reference as my first reference. I’ve then gone on to provide several more references. True, not all of them are independent but some are (the Google Scholar and CPHC links, for example. So what exactly needs correcting? Should I be looking at supplying more references or fewer?  (Bearing in mind that the above example only has one.)  Or should I be taking out material that isn’t so easy to independently reference?  If possible, I’d really appreciate guidance on what exactly needs to be done to which parts.  I’m even happy for this to be done for me if that’s appropriate? Many thanks.
 * The CPHC links are not independent, since the material seems to have been posted by Vic Grout, and in any case he seems to be a member of that organisation, so it is not a third party or independent. Google scholar is not suitable to show notability, as it is not selective, instead trying to be complete. However from the article I would say that the criteria in WP:PROF are met, being in a named chair, and having a large influence and number of publications. Independent examples would be where some journal or newspaper, or web site decided to have an article on the person, without any prompting from the subject. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:23, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Vicgrout (talk) 08:33, 31 December 2015 (UTC) OK, thanks. That's helpful. So, should the non-independent references come out or the material as well? Is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_H._Davenport a better example?