Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2015 February 17

= February 17 =

00:56:12, 17 February 2015 review of draft by Ricobernabe03
How do I save a "draft" and find it later to continue working on it??? logged out and I could figure out how to return to my draft. I had to backtrack with the browser until it came up... I thought maybe I could bookmark it but that can't be right. I logged out and log back and I could find anything.. Please help. Ricobernabe03 (talk) 00:56, 17 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Ricobernabe03 I have redirected your userspace draft page to Draft:Brian Tracy where your draft currently is. To keep tabs on any page you are working on you could add a link to it on your own user page. If you need help with how to do that simply ask here. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:11, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

11:03:00, 17 February 2015 review of submission by Upwurrder
I am very confused about how to make this fit the guidelines. Is someone available to guide me step by step? Upwurrder (talk) 11:03, 17 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Upwurrder, I have cleaned up the reference errors for you. What you need to do now do is find sources that discuss Ptacnik in some detail. Look for restaurant reviews and other articles in mainstream media such as major newspapers or magazines. So far all you've said is that this guy exists and he is a chef at this restaurant. What you need to do is tell what makes him more interesting than the millions of unknown chefs at millions of restaurants all over the world, or in other words, what's so special about this guy that Wikipedia should be bothered to have an article about him? One example - you said he is "award winning" but have not told us what awards he won. If you can find some personal detail about him that would also help improve the draft - when and where was he born, where was he educated, where and when did he train as a chef, has he worked at other restaurants, etc... These are the types of questions you should try to answer in the article. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:38, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

14:51:37, 17 February 2015 review of submission by 2601:D:CA00:552:5669:5DA8:2D4A:7012
Hi, I am working on this page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Edward_Walbridge

I included lots of secondary sources, but it was still rejected. I'm trying to pinpoint what I should remove to get it accepted? Maybe the information about his children (I am one of his children) -- I didn't have a source for that (except my life experience).

In terms of notability, I thought I made that clear in the discussion of SDI.

Any help would be appreciated!

Julia

2601:D:CA00:552:5669:5DA8:2D4A:7012 (talk) 14:51, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Julia,

The last three books references are independent and probably reliable. But they do not have substantial information on your subject. They confirm the fact in your page, but do not show notability of the person. The other references are connected with your subject. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:28, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

16:24:48, 17 February 2015 review of submission by Caralho2115
Austin David (born March 21, 1983) is an American amateur wrestler and martial artist originally from Locust Grove, Oklahoma. Credentials include; 2X Oklahoma state placer and 1X Oklahoma Heavy Weight state champion. Attended the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga winning the Southern Conference Wrestling championship and becoming an NCAA I qualifier. In 2003 transferred to the University of Oklahoma and competed in the 197lbs and HWT division. In his senior year Austin finished in the top 8 at the University National championships becoming an All-American. Austin has competed in four prize fighting Boxing matches winning 3 by TKO and 1 via unanimous decision. Also holds a record of 1 – 1 in professional MMA and Holds No-Gi submission grappling record or 9 -1 [1] [2] [3] [4] 1.Jump up ^ http://www.okwrestle.com/pages/ranking.htm 2.Jump up ^ http://www.nmnathletics.com/fls/17700/Sidebars/Wrestling/2001-02/stats.pdf?DB_OEM_ID=17700 3.Jump up ^ http://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Results 4.Jump up ^ http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Austin-David-17920

Caralho2115 (talk) 16:24, 17 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I have asked the decliner to explain. The relevant guideline for notability is WP:Athlete. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 01:19, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

18:14:56, 17 February 2015 review of submission by Sabrina Barton
Hello,

I requested a re-review 10 days ago and haven't heard back from the editor. You probably have access to my lengthy explanation (addressing issue of notability and references), so in this follow-up I'll just toss out one "notability" fact. Francis F. Lee won a Technical Achievement Emmy Award (1984) for a breakthrough invention he designed and sold through the company he founded, Lexicon; the invention's ability to stretch or compress audio became known in the TV and music industry as "lexiconning."

References (small sampling): Hoffman, Frank (2004). Encyclopedia of Recorded Sound. Routledge. pp. 1215–1216. Holms, Thom (2006). The Routledge Guide to Music Technology. Routledge. p. 168. American Radio History (website) Billboard June 1, 1996 "Lexicon: Enhancing Pro Audio's Vocabulary for 25 Years," Dan Daley Steve Schoenherr, The Digital Revolution, “Digital Audio Revolution” Audio Engineering Society website http://www.aes.org/aeshc/docs/recording.technology.history/digital.html Retrieved 6 January 2015.

Please look at my longer appeal to learn about Lee's other achievements.

Thank you for your consideration.

Sabrina

Sabrina Barton (talk) 18:14, 17 February 2015 (UTC)


 * @Sabrina Barton - you have actually not yet resubmitted it for another review - to do so you must click the blue "Resubmit" button in the pink review box at the top of the page. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:57, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Request on 22:09:09, 17 February 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by MariaCarlton
HI - I'm a first time editor and have just had my submission rejected due to there not being enough cited verification. However where it is very confusing is that this is for a noted singer/songwriter from Australia. I've included her discography and many of the names noted on the bio and in the Discography as collaborators or support musicians etc already have their own Wikipedia pages, and the CD's she's created are also by a very long standing top indie publisher. So - how exactly does one go beyond that for referencing. Very confused, thanks for any help available.

Maria Carlton

MariaCarlton (talk) 22:09, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 * The problem is that there are no references at all on Draft:Ingrid James. We need to know where you got your information from.  We look for writings from independent people.  They should be substantial and reliable.  Album covers and gig posters are not independent. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:58, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Apart from Industry Reviews, how else does one verify that an album is created and launched? I am an independent writer and I'd like to work out how best to tackle this - newspapers and magazines are hard pressed to write reviews of performers and album releases these days, so it must be there are other ways to reference a performing artist who arguably has had a prestigious career so far. I've noticed through the researching of Wikipedia for this task that even some Australian ARIA award winners are also missing off the pages of Wikipedia, so they must have the same issues?

Appreciate your help - thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by MariaCarlton (talk • contribs) 00:46, 18 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Websites or podcasts, TV shows or preserved radio programs can also be suitable. Though web sites used to show notability have to be independent of the artist or album, ie not selling it or written by their publicity people. The source also has to be substantial, ie not just a passing mention. Facts can also be derived from sources connected with the subject, but alone these are not sufficient to show notability. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 01:17, 18 February 2015 (UTC)