Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2015 February 23

= February 23 =

00:12:26, 23 February 2015 review of submission by Jonathan lipworth
Hi, I am a first time user and would greatly appreciate your help improving this article

- I am not sure why the citation style for this article is unclear - I am also not sure as to why the external links don't follow the Wikipedia guidelines - I have 17 citations and noticed from many others pages that some articles have far less than this … is it the quantity or quality of the citations that is the issue? - In addressing the issue of the article being an orphan, is it best to link other Wikipedia articles back to this page? - In the previous round of feedback it was stipulated that I should not use the title Dr or Professor throughout the article - although those are his actual titles. I can't use Mr as that would be incorrect

Many thanks for your help - much appreciated

Jonathan

Jonathan lipworth (talk) 00:12, 23 February 2015 (UTC)


 * The formatting of the citations is an issue. Merely providing a URL and title, with not even an access date, can lead to link rot. You could look at Citation templates for different ways to format references, or you could use an existing Wikipedia Good Article about a medical researcher as an example to work from, see Good articles/Natural sciences.


 * Yes, articles are orphans when no or few other Wikipedia articles link to the article.


 * Use no title at all, thus "Korda travelled to New York" is correct. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 13:43, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

06:12:24, 23 February 2015 review of submission by CountryMusicQueen
I am a representative of Buddy Owens. He owns copyrights to all the information that was added, including the copy but it was denied for copyright issues. Is there a way to have this reconsidered as a page? We'd like his information to be stored here on wikipedia since he is a successful songwriter/country singer. What do we need to do to get the page accepted? Thank you!

CountryMusicQueen (talk) 06:12, 23 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi, CountryMusicQueen. Yes, there is a process you can go through to confirm copyright permission. But frankly you shouldn't bother with it, since the bio page is considered promotional (that is, advertising). You should look for independent, reliable sources of information (news articles, magazines, etc.) and rewrite the page in your own words.  Anon 126   (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 13:29, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

10:35:39, 23 February 2015 review of submission by Davebevis
Dear AFC Help Desk,

I submitted a first draft of the article "Draft:George H Widdows" and this was rejected on notability grounds.

I extended the article and submitted it as a second draft. This was rejected on copyright violation grounds and then it was deleted because it met the speedy-deletion criteria.

Having now read the help articles on copyright, plaguarism and paraphrasing, I feel reasonably confident that I can re-work the article to avoid copyright violations. However, I would be grateful if you could confirm a few things about submitting a further (third) draft:

(a) Please can you confirm that my second draft successfully addressed the notability issues that caused my first draft to be rejected?

(b) Please can you confirm that, for my third draft, I will need to re-input the whole article rather than amend the (now-deleted) text that I submitted as my second draft?

(c) Please can you confirm that I can use the same name for my article as I did when I first submitted it?

Davebevis (talk) 10:35, 23 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I can't see the deleted second Draft, so I will leave an administrator to comment on that.


 * It is generally easier to start again using your own words entirely rather than work from a version that had copyright problems, however the deleting administrator may possibly be willing to email you the deleted text if you ask them.


 * Yes you can use the same name for the Draft, or for the article. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 13:47, 24 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your advice - it should help me plan how best to re-work the article. I hope to avoid having to contact an administrator to retrieve "lost" text.  I intend to rebuild the article via my sandbox and resubmit it from there.  Davebevis (talk) 09:54, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Request on 12:00:09, 23 February 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by 98.228.102.96
I attempted to submit an article on Vernon Lewis Nickell, Illinois State Superintendent of Public Instruction from 1941 to 1959.

The article appears not to have been accepted, primarily as the wording is similar to Nickell's Find-A-Grave Memorial. The concern with that logic is that I am the author and creator of Vernon's Find-A-Grave Memorial!! Of course my information and writing stype is going to be similar!! There are no copyright or intellectual property issues, as I am the creator/writer of both articles!!

I am not opposed to edits, and believe that I have submitted a good and objective bio-shell for Vernon Lewis Nickell, and want to move it forward. What are my next steps?

Best regards,

98.228.102.96 (talk) 12:00, 23 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Please review the information at Donating copyrighted materials, which should allow you to get round this issue. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 13:49, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

14:42:15, 23 February 2015 review of submission by 212.76.225.12
Dear Sir/Madam, I have one question regarding the slipsafe draft article. It was stated by the reviewer that some of the text was taken from the website www.slipsafe.org. Since we, the SlipSafe team, have developed this website and also the descriptions and text about the project, we also wanted to use some of the text for the Wikipedia article. Please note that this is not a copyright issue since it is our website and we have created the text. We have spent quite some time on the text in order to make it comprehensible for the public and explain some quite technical and complicated issues in an understandable way. Therefore, we wanted to use some of this wording also in our Wikipedia article about this project. Changing the description of the whole project would be very difficult since this article is about a technical European project and we have already worked on the text for quite a long time. To incorporate our text in the Wikipedia article, no matter if part of it is also published on our website, should not be a problem, or? Could you please give me some feedback on that issue. Thank you in advance. Best, Eva

212.76.225.12 (talk) 14:42, 23 February 2015 (UTC)


 * We would need to confirm permission via e-mail. Please follow the instructions at WP:CONSENT and keep in mind:
 * As you are not contributing images, please do not follow the large link to donate images or the link to Wikimedia Commons.
 * When filling out the form letter, please identify both the original URL at slipsafe.org and the URL on Wikipedia.
 * So that we can verify the permission, please send the e-mail from an official contact address (most likely one that ends in ).
 * Anon 124 (+2)  (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 20:03, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

16:27:30, 23 February 2015 review of submission by NalaHenkel
Hello! Regarding my article's rejection, can I just remove the section of the article around which copyright is an issue? The text in question was supplied to me by the company, but it may be easier to just remove that section. Also, can I assume there were no other issues with the article, and that after this revision and resubmission it should be approved?

Thank you for your help,

NalaHenkel (talk) 16:27, 23 February 2015 (UTC) NalaHenkel (talk) 16:27, 23 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Hmm... Actually, I don't believe there's a copyright issue. If the only thing that is copied is the text of the law, that should be fine, because everything produced by the U.S. government is in the public domain (not protected by copyright). Or, if there is something else, perhaps Josve05a (the reviewer) can comment here. Anon 124 (+2)   (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 19:59, 23 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks Anon124. If I don't hear further in a couple days, I think I'll just rewrite that "Membership" section and describe generally how people can become a member of a credit union. Then I can direct readers to this credit union's membership page for specific details. Thanks again! NalaHenkel (talk) 16:51, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

18:39:08, 23 February 2015 review of submission by Kencorba
Hello. I am under the impression that my subject is not "notable" enough for approval. Is there anything that I can do to push this through? Or any other way to get the article on Wikipedia?

Kencorba (talk) 18:39, 23 February 2015 (UTC)


 * The only way is to find more sources:
 * If you can't find any more, then it may just be too soon to have an article. Anon 124 (+2)   (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 19:54, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

20:32:05, 23 February 2015 review of submission by 206.53.104.44
206.53.104.44 (talk) 20:32, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO TO GET THIS PAGE POSTED? THIS IS VERY CONFUSING AND I'M WONDERING IF IT'S EVEN WORTH THE EFFORT. HELP ME OUT HERE. IT'S A SIMPLE POST FOR NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT REALLY HAS NOT MUCH FOR REFERENCES, IT'S BRAND NEW?

HELP......


 * We can help you only if you tell us what page you're referring to. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:17, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Request on 21:22:05, 23 February 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by HalinaZakowicz
Matthew Vanitas stated that the Hollow Fiber Bioreactors submission appeared to be a test edit. I am wondering how to correct this problem. I removed an image file from the submission, but otherwise I am notsure why this article is being called an edit. Thank you.

HalinaZakowicz (talk) 21:22, 23 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi HalinaZakowicz don't worry about it, that problem no longer exists as you seem to have expanded the draft substantially. I did a little bit of cleaning up for you, when you are ready for another review just click the blue "Resubmit" button in the pink review box. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:49, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

22:55:27, 23 February 2015 review of submission by Filmfan39
My article on Noah Cowan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Noah_Cowan) was declined because it was "not adequately supported by reliable sources." The article currently includes 3 sited sources that are known, reputable online publications. How many more do I need to add for it to be accepted? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. (The username on the article is different, because I was asked to change that as well.)

Filmfan39 (talk) 22:55, 23 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Filmfan39, I'll try to help you figure it out. Firstly I notice that all three current references are in the last few paragraphs, thus the preceding 80% or so of the article has no sources at all - "Early life", "Early career" and so on is completely unreferenced. How do you know what you wrote in those unreferenced paragraphs? The three sources that are cited are: 1 a major broadcaster - we accept that such a source is both independent and usually reliable; 2 is Cowan's employer - thus it is probably reliable though probably biased but it is definitely not independent; 3 is a blog with no indication of or way to assess its reliability or independence.
 * The first reference tells us very little about Cowan, it actually only uses him as a source for various "sound bites" about a topic that Cowan was involved in. The second referenced page does not even mention Cowan at all, so why it's even used in the article is a mystery to me. The third source does give some detail about Cowan's career but it appears to be a re-publisher of press releases and promotional material rather than an independently reported news source with full editorial control. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:23, 24 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Hello, Roger (Dodger67). Thank you for your helpful response. I've gone in and added 7 additional sources throughout the article. Some are from bigger, known magazines/news outlets, some from smaller ones. Hopefully, those will help clear up the problem with getting the article approved. If there is still a problem with it, please let me know. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Filmfan39 (talk • contribs) 19:51, 25 February 2015 (UTC)