Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2015 February 7

= February 7 =

Request on 02:29:27, 7 February 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Rhea Ranger
I am trying to create an event page for a Wikipedia edit-a-thin and it was rejected. I know that similar things are created all the time. Is it different than an article?

Rhea Ranger (talk) 02:29, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

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 * See How to run an edit-a-thon for info on where project pages for edit-a-thons should be posted. However, I am bit concerned by an editor with no mainspace edits (and no edits at all before posting the edit-a-thon draft) organizing an edit-a-thon. It's important that such events have a number of experienced editors involved (one longtime Wikipedian per 10 attendees is probably the absolute minimum, and one-on-one collaboration is always the best). If there are experienced Wikipedia editors involved, perhaps it would be better for one of them to be responsible for the on-wiki promotion. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK

09:27:29, 7 February 2015 review of submission by Jud Hudon
I have simplified this article as much as I can. Would you please tell me what is wrong with it now? I don't see where I can make it more scholarly like the reviewer asked me to. Thank you.

Jud Hudon (talk) 09:27, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

14:11:59, 7 February 2015 review of submission by Alfhild-anthro
Hi! I am working on a bio page for a living person who is a working musician. This person tried to put up a page a few years ago but it was taken down. He thought it was taken down because there is another musician with exactly the same name who has a big web-presence already and people are confusing them who never knew they both existed before the web came into being.

I can see now that the problem probably was with the references. I am still earning how to place reference material in the article. I submitted the page yesterday from my sandbox thinking it would be seen as a preliminary draft. I had tried to put the ref/ref symbol in the places I was going to add references. Only one of the references I tried to insert actually stuck. So I will keep reading up on how it should be done.

I deleting material as I find which references are actually available and useable. It turns out it is very haphazard finding references for things that happened in the 1970s and 80s. Is that true for most subjects over 50 or am I missing something? I have some other questions: - Are CDs and albums on which the subject of my page appears, that were released by known record companies and listed under Discography with their identifying info, considered references? - Can I use these published recordings to back up my assertions that the person "played with" other people on the albums? - Should I only list the albums for which I have located review material? - How does one list recordings from the radio that were made and reproduced for the subject by a know radio station? - How do I provide evidence for performances in my subject's career that I can't find web material for that mentions my subject's name? He has played with large bands and at public music festivals with many other acts. Is there a way to scan a poster from the venue that lists the band my subject was playing with at the time? I will go study up on adding references and links but any help you could give me would be much appreciated! Thank you very much! Alfhild-anthro

Alfhild-anthro (talk) 14:11, 7 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Alfhild-anthro. This fellow clearly meets the inclusion criteria. He has entries in two major reference works. The "other Andy McKee" may be all over the internet, but yours is in books! I've added those references to the article, plus some other sources that can eventually be used as inline citations. This is the kind of sourcing an article needs. I've also moved your draft to Draft:Andy McKee (bassist). We can work on it for a few more days and then I'll move to article space. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 17:23, 7 February 2015 (UTC)