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= January 5 =

04:15:41, 5 January 2015 review of submission by 69.67.110.136
It has been a long time since the submission with no response from the reviewers, so I am hoping for some status information, or perhaps where I am in the que. Thanks, Michael

69.67.110.136 (talk) 04:15, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Shall I assume you are an employee of said company? Single-purpose accounts working on a commercial subject create that impression. If so, please tell your boss that you should be fired. You write a nonsense draft with four press releases and a single news article that doesn't mention your company at all. That's sheer incompetence. Yet in mere moments I was able to find this article, this article, this article, and this filing in the 10th circuit against Peiker Acustic Gmbh. You're welcome. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 04:56, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

10:18:53, 5 January 2015 review of submission by 85.241.24.149
I don't seem to get what is wrong with the article i wrote about Saturnia.85.241.24.149 (talk) 10:18, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

85.241.24.149 (talk) 10:18, 5 January 2015 (UTC) ✅
 * Already answered at Teahouse/Questions. MatthewVanitas (talk) 14:04, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

14:49:12, 5 January 2015 review of submission by Chdant
Chdant (talk) 14:49, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

NEED TO INSERT PHOTO (I OWN COPYWRIGHT) INTO A NEW PUBLISHED PAGE
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17:15:43, 5 January 2015 review of submission by Bclark1220
Need help figuring out which areas of my draft are coming across more as an advertisement than as an entry about who my company is and what we do.

Bclark1220 (talk) 17:15, 5 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Bclark1220 - The first thing that jumped out at me is the use of second person pronouns. WP articles must be written strictly in the third person - we never directly address or instruct the reader. Changing all those "you"s to "users" would be a significant improvement.
 * Several sections have no references at all, that needs to be fixed - every arguable claim needs a reference.
 * I removed an inline external link - it is in any case already correctly present in the external links list. That list however needs to be pruned, secondary sites such as social media pages should not be listed, the company's official website surely has links to them anyway.
 * Hope this helps Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:47, 5 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Roger (Dodger67) - Thanks for the feedback. I went in and made those recommended changes. SO do you need to have a reference in each section or is it just better if you do? That is the last thing I am struggling with on the edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bclark1220 (talk • contribs) 18:15, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Hello, - it doesn't hurt to have references for every significant statement you want to make in an article. Have a look at the basic guideline article WP:Referencing for beginners, the first section of which ('Good references') gives you that answer in a nutshell. In your case, this would definitely apply to the passage about the freemium business model and about device compatibility.


 * I think you do need a few more sources which actively discuss your software: demonstrating its usage in one particular school in Washington is one thing, but having an article which discusses its schools usage in an independent manner (of both yourselves and the school) would be better. I think you need some sources which go deeper into independent discussion of your software; we can see it exists, but not whether it is a significant player within its marketplace, which is what the notability guidelines require from most similar articles (both about companies and about software). This is perhaps a hard obstacle to overcome, so see if you can find some independent reviews or discussions of your software and add those to the article ASAP before you submit it for review again. LouiseS1979 (talk) 21:35, 5 January 2015 (UTC)


 * LouiseS1979 Yeah that is the main issue I am running into. We have only been around for about 5 months so I am still getting items written about us and trying to get more content out there. ANy recommendations on where to look will be greatly appreciated. Also do you know how many times you can submit? In case I do this and they still need more detailed sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bclark1220 (talk • contribs) 21:44, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * - the problem is, if you are still getting articles written about you, it may be that your software isn't independently notable enough quite yet for Wikipedia's purposes (promoting yourself using press releases doesn't often generate the sort of sourcing we require; quite often you need to be independently noticed by other people to produce articles which are independent enough to get a good source written about you). A problem with notability isn't often solved in the short term: this is a problem with a lot of corporate articles from promising start-ups. Five months may not be time enough to establish the required notability and generate the sort of sourcing necessary to qualify under the existing guidelines. See the WP:CORPDEPTH issue a lot of people have with this sort of situation. LouiseS1979 (talk) 06:20, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Request on 17:42:44, 5 January 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by 519Clarke
My article Draft: Converted on LSD was not successful due to not providing suitable citation or references. I wish to do this so I am looking at how to do so. All I was told that the references could not be verified. I would really like an example of a suitable citation or reference using the article I provided because I think there mys be at least one correctly cited reference. And if you could sight one that is not correctly cited I can work our how to proceed.

Regards

David Clarke 17:42, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

David Clarke 17:42, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I would recommend first that you read the piles of instructions Wikipedia has. Try Referencing for Beginners and our guideline on citations. Sources have to be independent and reliable. Your citations from The News, Eastbourne Herald, and Bucks Herald are fine. The rest of it looks problematic and needs to go, along with all the content it supports. Your goal is to show the subject meets our notability criteria for books. If you write like you're trying to advertise you'll be refused again. We want a dispassionate, fact-based write-up. You could look at the article I wrote about Dragon Seed by Pearl S. Buck. It's very short but it only contains what the sources support. It covers the basic facts without extolling the book. Articles about more popular books like Anne Frank's The Diary of a Young Girl are longer and discuss more of the book's impact. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 03:33, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

23:45:26, 5 January 2015 review of submission by 208.38.52.98
Dear Wikipedia. At this point, I don't have any more references except my book on the topic of Life Architecture which has not yet been published. I'm thinking that I should not do anything until my book is published; or, can I use an unpublished book as a source? Please advise and I will act accordingly. 208.38.52.98 (talk) 23:45, 5 January 2015 (UTC)


 * 208.38.52.98, what draft are you referring to? We can't help you unless you provide us a link to the page you're asking about, and a little more context. MatthewVanitas (talk) 01:15, 6 January 2015 (UTC)