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= July 28 =

03:17:37, 28 July 2015 review of submission by Dodgetherocks
PocketGenie is a third-party BlackBerry software back when they were pagers. It already has a brief mention on the List of BlackBerry products. It doesn't have an article yet, but I want to write one on Wikipedia since I have third-party references for it.

Before I go through the page creation process, I wanted to know in advance if it meets the notability standards for articles. I'd rather not have to go through the threat of the deletion process. Is it too obsolete and obscure to include?

Dodgetherocks (talk) 03:17, 28 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I understand why you ask, but you need to research the topic and find references for it. We require references from significant coverage about the topic of the article, and independent of it, and in WP:RS please. See WP:42. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources.
 * Broadly speaking, two or more of those will verify notability. But why not simply expand the blackberry article if you are unsure? Fiddle   Faddle  06:42, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I do have a handful of references that I can name off the bat that do mention PocketGenie and its functionality: PC Magazine articles, How to Do Everything with Your BlackBerry by Curt Simmons, Andrew Seybold's Outlook, this article from the LA Times and this BlackBerry release. I'm asking if these references are enough for its own page for reasons already stated.


 * I do not understand your exact rationale for why I would expand the BlackBerry page about PocketGenie when it is a third party collaboration. RIM sponsored it but did not create it. Dodgetherocks (talk) 15:07, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I missed that.
 * My view is that your references could well be sufficient.  Fiddle   Faddle  17:36, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

07:13:02, 28 July 2015 review of submission by 122.161.20.51
122.161.20.51 (talk) 07:13, 28 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I have dealt with this Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:56, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

08:00:03, 28 July 2015 review of submission by IFG
I wrote an article and it got deleted, I rewrote it and I want someone to check for me if its good to go. This is the link to the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Innovation_4_Impact_Competition IFG (talk) 08:00, 28 July 2015 (UTC)


 * It is correctly submitted for review, someone will get to it in due course. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:18, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

08:12:34, 28 July 2015 review of submission by 93.157.79.30
Hi, please, give me any more precise tips, this is my first post on WIKI. I have corerected it several times but no results (I get the same notices). Best Regards 93.157.79.30 (talk) 08:12, 28 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I have left what I hope is a useful comment on the draft. Fiddle   Faddle  21:13, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

13:09:48, 28 July 2015 review of submission by Sulmarkmack
Hello. I wrote this article about Sullair taking great care not to make it subjective. The previous reviewer didn't see it this way and denied the article stating that it sounded like an advertisement. I contacted the reviewer to explain further because I don't know what is considered "advertising" in the article, and did not receive any further feedback. I have reviewed similar company articles and find no contextual differences. Sorry but I am confused. Can someone please re-review this article and either approve it or tell me with some additional specificity why it is an advertisement? Thank you, Greg Sulmarkmack (talk) 13:09, 28 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I suspect the tone. Look at the section "Founder" which is great magazine material, but unsuitable for Wikipedia. We require "Dull-but-worthy" and we don't need the material about Drucker. Fiddle   Faddle  21:18, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Request on 13:41:38, 28 July 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Jothebulb
Jothebulb (talk) 13:41, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

I am having difficulty locating references of national significance for my piece on Sunbury Skiff club. I am comparing this article two other articles in the same category & am failing to understand what I am missing. For example: Wargrave_Boating_Club Wargrave Skiff club article cites two reference: one is the club's own web page, the other is no-longer functioning local history web page. The_Skiff_Club The Skiff club article cites only one reference, being an article of one hundred years of skiff racing on the Thames in the 2001 ed. of the British Rowing Association's annual almanack.

Compared to these articles, I am not sure where else I can go to find items of 'national significance', to meet the criteria for inclusion. Is there any advice I could get to what I need to be looking for?


 * No precedent is ever set by any article for any other. If it were we would have a brutally fast descent into idiocracy. Other articles may have arrived when less strict criteria were in place. They probably require improvement.
 * Your challenge is to make the Sunbury club's notability stand out. There are many clubs, by no means all of which have Wikipedia articles. Fiddle   Faddle  17:38, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

15:06:07, 28 July 2015 review of submission by 217.78.151.250
Hello ... my article is currently not published due to a copyright query. I wrote the original information that is on my companies website where the bulk of the text came from. I have every right to use it so if anyone could press the 'okay' button that would be appreciated :)

217.78.151.250 (talk) 15:06, 28 July 2015 (UTC)


 * No, because we have no idea who you are. Please see WP:Donating copyright material for the route you must follow. Be aware that text for w website may not be at all suitable for Wikipedia even when donated. Fiddle   Faddle  17:39, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

16:54:26, 28 July 2015 review of submission by Tank&sunny
Tank&#38;sunny (talk) 16:54, 28 July 2015 (UTC) I am asking for you to re-review it because I want that piece to replace the old one on Ruckus Wireless.


 * That is not the way it works. Please edit Ruckus Wireless instead. Fiddle   Faddle  17:42, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

20:19:37, 28 July 2015 review of submission by Krishanuthe13th
The article got rejected and says that its not written from neutral point. I have tried to keep the article as factual as possible. So not understanding why it looks like an advertisement. Please help. Also the rejection comment says "should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed." I have cited news articles from well known news agencies in India. None of the references are related to me or created by the company on whom the article is written. It would help me a lot if you can clarify this point as well. Thanks in advance. Krishanuthe13th (talk) 20:19, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

21:43:32, 28 July 2015 review of submission by 27.106.41.25
27.106.41.25 (talk) 21:43, 28 July 2015 (UTC) What is qiwam or kimam means? How does it's affect human body? Suggestions how to quit it.


 * This is not the correct venue. Google is probably the best place. Fiddle   Faddle  21:48, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Request on 22:44:37, 28 July 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Stevenlevine1
Hello there! I would like some guidance regarding a Wikipedia page I have created.

I first received a decline notification that my draft didn't meet Wikipedia's notability standards. Because of this, I added more references. I then received a notification that it had been declined due to incline citations. I thought it might be due to a Liza Minnelli quote that wasn't attributed to a source, so I removed that whole part. I also fixed some of the citations by changing them from "web" to "news," because I thought that might help, and I resubmitted. It was declined again for the same reason. I'm really not sure what to do and if there are any specific lines I should focus on. Also, since it now is being declined for a different reason, does that mean it now meets Wikipedia's notability standards, since it's no longer being declined for that? Thanks in advance for your help!

Stevenlevine1 (talk) 22:44, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Request on 23:17:53, 28 July 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Band Angeles
I am trying to write an article about a band I keep getting deleted and would like someone to explain how to do this I have tried various ways with no avail. Don't know what and where to insert information.

Dale Lytle (talk) 23:17, 28 July 2015 (UTC)