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= March 6 =

13:39:50, 6 March 2015 review of submission by Dredmorbius
I created a basic bibliographic page for NPR's current CEO, head of a major news organization of note and with some recent turmoil having had eight CEOs in eight years. Inspiration was looking at his [ current interview] on Diane Rehm's show and realizing that he had no Wikipedia entry.

The article is brief, but I'll submit that Mohn meets the requirements for notability. I've also sourced data from both NPR (a news organization itself) and The New York Times. Otherwise:


 * NPR has a Wikipedia entry, and Jarl Mohn was previously listed on the page as a red link.
 * Numerous other NPR presidents CEOs have entries: Donald Quayle, Frank Mankiewicz, Delano Lewis, Kevin Klose, Ken Stern, Paul G. Haaga, Jr. (as acting CEO, and Vivian Schiller.  The position itself is notable.
 * As well as many NPR staff: Rehm, mentioned above, Robert Siegel, Audie Cornish, [Melissa Block]], Arun Rath, Steve Inskeep, Renée Montagne, Scott Simon, Rachel Martin, Guy Raz, Michel Martin, Bob Boilen, Nancy Wilson, Glynn Washington, Fiona Ritchie, Peter Sagal .... and many others.  Those who work for NPR are generally notable -- those who lead NPR are inherently notable.
 * NPR bigraphies are cited on Shiller's, Klose's, and Haaga's entries.
 * A DDG search on "'Jarl Mohn' NPR CEO" turns up in the first 21 results stories at NPR (2), Huffington Post, The Washington Post, Poynter Institute, [WFYI, Los Angeles Times, Wall Street Journal, Crunchbase, Variety Magazine, Hollywood Reporter, Here and Now (an NPR program), The New York Times, On the Media (a Public Radio International program distributed on NPR), the Benton Foundation, USA Today, KCUR, Philanthropy.com, and Current. Among many, many others.  The assignment of Mohn is itself notable as shown in the journalistic record.  That satisfies the Notability requirement:  "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject."

I'll allow that the article is a stub, though that was my intent: create a basic starting point for more information. It does cite multiple sources. It cites sources included in numerous other similar articles of persons holding the same position previously. It cites independent sources.

I'll add additional citation(s) to the article.

Again: I'd turned to Wikipedia for information on Mohn and was surprised it wasn't present. So I fixed the problem.

Dredmorbius (talk) 13:39, 6 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Accepted, congratulations. The sources you added after the previous review - newspapers such as LA Times, Washington Post, etc are exactly what it needed. BTW there is absolutely nothing at all wrong with creating stub articles, you do not need to be defensive about that. If you can find some more biographical detail such as where and when he was born, more detail about his education, where does he live, is he married, etc. that would fill it out and upgrade it from stub. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:01, 6 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I realize part of this is probably just the templated responses and such.  "Subject is notably but another non-NPR source would help" is the sort of hint that would have helped.  I figured I'd just slather on more until the next reviewer got sick of 'em (and notice you knocked a couple off the final product).  All's good.


 * The additional information is actually some of what I hoped to elicit in creating the article. Watching him talk in the Diane Rehm clips made me curious as to just who he was and what makes him tick.  Not a whole lot of biographical data that I've found but I'll keep an eye out.


 * That's the first time I've used the full citation format, it's actually kind of slick (in output), though cumbersome to write. is there some sort of bot support for standardizing references to that format?  Dredmorbius (talk) 19:23, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

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 * I assume you already know about the RefToolbar, but if not it can help fill in references. There's also reFill and Reflinks that can automatically fill in some info from a bare URL. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK


 * No, actually, I handn't. I'd copied the template out in vim and was doing a range copy and filling out values there, then inserting into Wikipedia.  So thanks!  Dredmorbius (talk) 06:58, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Reflinks is a mature tool which I use a quite often, reFill is still under development and clunky, imho should not have been deployed yet. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:36, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

15:52:44, 6 March 2015 review of submission by Tasna8
I used another page (Endomondo) as a template to make sure to be as objective as needed. I am not sure that my entry is more advertisy than the on for the Endomondo page and the sources also seem similar. I woul dlike to have more in depth feedback why these 2 articles are so different that one is live and one is declined. Thank you so much!

Tasna8 (talk) 15:52, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

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 * The Endomondo article isn't a particularly good example. You should use articles rated as B-class or better by WikiProject Software or WikiProject Apps as examples. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK

16:24:50, 6 March 2015 review of submission by Stereotyp123
Dear Wikipedia Advances Users,

sorry in case its an easy question but I am totally new to this topic. I have tried to creat this page (XTR HUMAN) and it was declined. Is there anything against the Wikipedia Policies? It is a site for my band but only relevant informations and it is not in a promotional way I think.

would be great to get a feedback how it can be changed respecting the guidelines.

Kindly Regards, Johannes Stereotyp123 (talk) 16:24, 6 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Stereotyp123, we can't rely solely on personal knowledge or your band's website/social media. Wikipedia needs reliable outside sources of information like newspapers, magazines, books, and so on. This is true even if the information is not promotional.  Anon 126   (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 18:37, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

18:00:21, 6 March 2015 review of submission by Facingproject
I have edited my submission, but when I do a preview it doesn't show all of the content I have entered. The preview, and the preview on the saved and submitted page, only shows the first paragraph of the entire article. I'm not sure if this is a glitch and the entire article submission was received, or if there is a glitch and for some reason the entire article was not submitted. I've included what I've submitted as the edits below:

{{collapse| The Facing Project is a for-profit, social venture company founded by J.R. Jamison and Kelsey Timmerman, and it has its headquarters in Muncie, Indiana. The company developed and licenses a model for community storytelling projects. Projects have focused on topics such as homelessness, human trafficking, poverty, hunger, sexual violence, autism, disabilities, and addiction. The individual facing the topic is referred to as the storyteller. The storyteller meets with an assigned writer face-to-face, and then the writer writes the story in the first person as if they are the storyteller. http://m.roanoke.com/news/education/higher_education/facing-rockbridge-seeks-the-human-stories-beyond-statistics/article_68bf4c94-78e6-5309-9523-4084c47ba557.html?mode=jqm Each project produces a book and hosts a theatrical monologue event open to the community. The company’s stated mission is to “connect people through stories to strengthen communities.” http://www.facingproject.com/about

Reception
The Facing Project has been featured on NPR http://wabe.org/post/facing-sex-trafficking-artistic-approach?utm_referrer=http%3A//m.wabe.org/%3Futm_referrer%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fm.facebook.com%23mobile/53855 http://wboi.org/programs/facing-project and The Huffington Post http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelsey-timmerman/an-inside-look-at-autism-_b_5228060.html  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelsey-timmerman/spokenword-artist-capture_b_6607344.html, covered on PBS http://aibtv.com/ , named “one of three oral history projects to watch” by The Huffington Post http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-souleo-wright/on-the-a-wsouleo-three-or_b_5574013.html , and has drawn the attention of political figures including House Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. http://www.thetimestribune.com/news/article_c758c626-33de-11e4-90c1-0019bb2963f4.html?mode=jqm

Further Information
The Facing Project website http://www.facingproject.com

22:56:22, 6 March 2015 review of submission by 187.163.74.215
I have a question because my editor states the article lacks notable resources, but all are wither original company web site links or renowned information source links (such as fox news and yahoo finance). I am posting for the registry, the owner of the .rest and .bar domains, matter of the subject of the article. The information I am using to cite is even present on the press information that Punto 2012 and the .rest website show as back-up and credit for what it stands for. ¿Does it have to do witht he fact that .rest was launched less than a year ago? Here are all the links I am using as reference:

http://www.punto2012.com/ http://www.register.rest/ http://www.register.bar/ http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20140714005206/en/.REST-.BAR-Global-Domains-Restaurants-Bars-General#.VPob_3yG91Y http://finance.yahoo.com/news/restaurants-bars-over-world-rest-120000898.html http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/06/17/restaurants-and-bars-now-have-their-own-domain-names/ http://gtld.easyspace.com/launch-periods

187.163.74.215 (talk) 22:56, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

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 * Generally, you need multiple citations to significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article to show notability. The businesswire and yahoo finance links are to press releases, which are not considered independent. The Fox News article is a good start, but you would need a few more similar references before your article would be accepted. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK