Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2015 May 11

= May 11 =

12:49:09, 11 May 2015 review of submission by Matupitu
Matupitu (talk) 12:49, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Having looked at a lot of articles it is clear The Whipper Snappers are more notable than many others already listed and do satisfy the criteria, however finding/sourcing that material is not my area of expertise. There would be Australian music people with much more knowledge than I who could help. How do I keep this draft alive and reach out to others to assist? Cheers matupitu Matupitu (talk) 12:49, 11 May 2015 (UTC)


 * drafts take ages to expire, and can be got back even past their deletion date. Simply work on improving it. Comparisons with other articles never work. No precedent is ever set by any article for any other. If it were we would have a brutally fast descent into idiocracy Fiddle   Faddle  15:48, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

15:21:22, 11 May 2015 review of submission by Mds43
The page was rejected and I don't know why. It reads very encyclopedic, factual and unbiased to me. Not sure what other changes can be made. Thanks! Mds43 (talk) 15:21, 11 May 2015 (UTC) Mds43 (talk) 15:21, 11 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Please confirm that you have read the reviewer's comments on the draft, then ask again about the areas you do not understand. Fiddle   Faddle  15:42, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

15:51:29, 11 May 2015 review of submission by Seryxme
Hi,

I submitted a draft for review a month ago and it was reviewed almost instantly and I have made adjustments since then as it was turned down. I resubmitted three days later and since then, I haven't gotten any response. Please let me know how soon I can get this reviewed. The draft is here - Draft:The_Naked_Convos.

Thank you. Seryxme (talk) 15:51, 11 May 2015 (UTC) Seryxme (talk) 15:51, 11 May 2015 (UTC)


 * We are all volunteers here, so Drafts get reviewed when people get to them. At the moment, you could be waiting two or three weeks for another review, or it could happen sooner. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 06:46, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

18:50:46, 11 May 2015 review of submission by Speahlman
Speahlman (talk) 18:50, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Samee, you have rejected the article I have written. You give three "reasons". They are unconvincing. First, the article is definitely not an "essay". It deals with a highly complex series of historical developments that lasted for about four centuries, that took place on two continents - Europe and North America -, and that revolutionized the Western world. So the article cannot simply consist of a couple of sentences. Robert Middlekauff's work on the American Revolution is more than 600 pages long, Weinstein and Rubel needed about the same space for their history of the United States. Winkler needed about 1200 pages to describe the history of the Western world. Second and third, each single bit of information in the article is based on reliable, secondary sources. All authors are or were excellent experts in their fields. The article contains absolutely no personal opinion or primary research. I guess that you don't speak German. But which of the English-language books I rely on have you read? Show me where I misunderstood them. Weinstein/Rubel? Middlekauff? Waldron? Kidd? If you reject the article, your criticisms must be specific. Of course, I could drop some quotations, for example, those from Habermas and/or Winkler, or put them into the "References" section. I could also drop the "Defintion" passage. Maybe everybody knows what the terms "tolerance" and "intolerance" mean and meant in the history of the West. Speahlman (talk) 18:50, 11 May 2015 (UTC)


 * unless you alert (as I have just done) there is no guarantee that they will see your message. Had I reviewed your draft I would have reached similar conclusions, and I have placed a more detailed rationale on the draft itself for you to consider. Please consider it. Wikipedia is a very difficult medium to write for, unlike any other environment you have worked with (0.9 probability). Most folk trip up at the start. You're in good company.  Fiddle   Faddle  19:06, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
 *  sami  talk 20:14, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

22:34:46, 11 May 2015 review of submission by Kirby777
I think I have enough in my article for it to be created and to build on. I'm just concerned that the page - about a music album - lacks a picture. I don't know how to get a picture for an album and set up the media page and all the justifications and such. Kirby777 (talk) 22:34, 11 May 2015 (UTC) PAGE''' ]]) 22:48, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Whether or not there is a picture will not affect how your draft is reviewed. If you're planning on using a non-free image such as an album cover, you must wait until the article is approved to add it because the fair-use justifications do not permit the use of such an image on a draft. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK