Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2015 October 1

= October 1 =

09:35:39, 1 October 2015 review of submission by NIHA42
Hi, I need help to edit the Reference list - en the preview mode, the references turn up under the section External links. Is that correct or how should I proceed to get it right? Thanks in advance.
 * ) nina hammacher

NIHA42 (talk) 09:35, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I believe has to be BELOW the references. Either way, the article hasn't got inline citations, therefore is unlikely to be accepted. External links also shouldn't be in the body (per WP:MOS). --  Kethrus &#124;talk to me 12:41, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Request on 10:17:49, 1 October 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by WpisDlaTrefla
I would very much appreciate help in creating an article on Trefl Company - jigsaw puzzles and board games manufacturer from Poland and also a sponsor of 3 polish sport clubs. You can base on the draft I have already written, but it was blocked due to the conflict of interest. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Trefl&redirect=no

WpisDlaTrefla (talk) 10:17, 1 October 2015 (UTC) WpisDlaTrefla (talk) 10:17, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
 * We need several independent sources that discuss the topic directly and in detail. Not: passing mentions, directory listings, or any old thing that happens to have the topic's name in it. All that I see in that article are external links, and no references at all. Please take a look at WP:REFBEGIN. -- Kethrus &#124;talk to me 12:46, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

11:29:56, 1 October 2015 review of submission by Sugar Activism
Hi,

I have tried to create a page for John Matisonn who is an author soon to be releasing a pretty important book on South African politics.

I would like to reference him as an important South African personality.

I havent really had a chance to reference news sites that reference him but have been told the page might not be approved.

Could you help?

Thanks so much,

Emily Sugar Activism (talk) 11:29, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
 * You'll have to wait until they're notable, it's probably WP:TOOSOON for them to have an article. -- Kethrus &#124;talk to me 12:43, 1 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Sugar Activism and Kethrus - we already have an article about John Matisonn, it's quite short so improving and expanding it is welcome. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:49, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I was aware of this, I checked the users contributions. I had taken a look at it, and used what was said here to come to the conclusion that it may be too soon for them to have an article. -- Kethrus &#124;talk to me 16:59, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry Kethrus but your conclusion is clearly incorrect, the subject easily passes WP:GNG, he's been a prominent journalist and political commentator in South Africa for decades. The current article is based on a university press book and 4 or 5 mainstream press articles. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:45, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
 * My apologies, I hadn't checked the article again. This was the page I saw when first commenting. (I must also note I am quite sleep deprived, I'm now going to be going to sleep - if you need me feel free to ping and I'll respond ASAP). -- Kethrus &#124;talk to me 17:49, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
 * @Kethrus, thanks that explains it. Good night, I'll be off to bed shortly too. @Sugar Activism I've posted a few possibly useful links to your talk page. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:19, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks everyone - I really appreciate it. I'm brand new to Wiki so am taking up all suggestions and comments. Am going to go on the Adventure tutorial today :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sugar Activism (talk • contribs) 06:22, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

13:53:19, 1 October 2015 review of submission by Geoff Bubbles
Hi I am completely new to writing for wikipedia and was redirected to you here. As a collector of music for many years and somebody who often uses Wikipedia to look up information on many musicians/bands etc I noticed there are some omissions so felt that with my own personal knowledge I might be able to clear up a few holes. However on writing my first article on 1976 UK Punk Band Misspent Youth I seem to be coming up against problems regarding acceptance of cited support? I have used quotes from a well recognised published book by Borderline Books, also referenced 2 major websites plus other references but not sure really what else I can use, I felt I had covered points section 1 point 7 and recordings section point 5 on artist notability and relevance fairly well. I would appreciate any help you might give me as I would like to carry on writing such articles Kind Geoff Bubbles (talk) 13:53, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Geoff Bubbles (talk), The references you've used aren't strong enough -- the book is good but popsike and bored teenagers websites aren't reliable and punk77 is borderline. I thought I could point you towards some references, but I was wrong --  it's a tough search online because 'misspent youth' is such an overused phrase and because the band was covered in publications which were probably not archived online.   I'll keep looking - we need an entry on Misspent Youth! - I'll check with my rock critic friends and see if anyone has info or access to archives of Melody Maker, NME, etc and add refs to the draft if I find them.  Thanks for your efforts.  Let's get this done!  Julie JSFarman (talk) 15:51, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

15:37:55, 1 October 2015 review of submission by Olugbenga4
I want to know why the Pahayi History created by me was declined --Olugbenga4 (talk) 15:37, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't see any declined draft called "Pahayi History", all I found was "Pahayi information", which has never been reviewed. -- Kethrus &#124;talk to me 17:21, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Update: I found Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/PAHAYI HISTORY, which got deleted because it hadn't been edited in 6 months (so presumed abandomed). If you want it restored, please take a look at Requests for undeletion/G13. -- Kethrus &#124;talk to me 17:23, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

21:17:38, 1 October 2015 review of submission by PamMcP
I am not clear why my article was rejected. I used reliable, independent sources and the new museum received -- and continues to receive -- significant coverage. This is a major new museum, notable not only for its extensive historic collection but also for the architectural beauty of the building.

PamMcP (talk) 21:17, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Draft:Western Spirit: Scottsdale's Museum of the West wasn't declined, it was deleted as it hadn't been edited in 6 months. You can retrieve the article by taking a look at WP:REFUND/G13. -- Kethrus &#124;talk to me 05:24, 2 October 2015 (UTC)