Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2015 October 25

= October 25 =

00:49:05, 25 October 2015 review of submission by Colemanchris
Hello peoples of the Wikipedia Articles for Creation Help Hesk, Just writing to ask your opinion of this Draft Article for Creation, Draft:Artica, specifically, would the changes made to it make it now eligible for creation, I believe I have edited adequately for Neutral Point Of View, and Notability, as was requested. Any tips, hints, pearls of wisdom, on how to improve this article in your opinion would be most welcome, thank you. If it needs no more improving and fir for creation, would be fine as well. Colemanchris (talk) 00:49, 25 October 2015 (UTC)


 * with a substantial comment left on the draft to guide your hand. Fiddle   Faddle  16:16, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Request on 12:57:15, 25 October 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by SandeepSessions
Hi I want to create a Wikipedia Page on Sandeep Maheshwari. In my last submission, I provided all the links about the same. Still I am getting the message that your article does not show subject's notability. Please let me know how to proceed.

SandeepSessions (talk) 12:57, 25 October 2015 (UTC)


 * For a living person we have a high standard of referencing. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is about them, and is independent of them, and is in WP:RS, and is significant coverage. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact cited, that meet these tough criteria is likely to make this draft a clear acceptance (0.9 probability). Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the person is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today. Fiddle   Faddle  14:34, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Request on 21:16:00, 25 October 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Humza.shahzad
This young kid passed three different exam which were never passed by any one of his age till now. For that I have provided several cross references from different news reporters who on different timing took Humza Shahzad interview against his several unique different achievements.

so I am still trying to understand the reason " biography of a living person notable for only one event" given to reject my article.

While, I see that similar article covered on others kids have been approved. for example see below few names. These below kids have similar success but in different categories. If you require proof of achievements, all original certificates can be provided. Or if require any other information. kindly help guide what is prevent to approve this article.

Arfa Karim Badar Iqbal Ayan Qureshi

Also see these few references links(you can get the URL from my submitted article) I have provided what can be directly verified.

Shabnam Mahmood - BBC Asian Network, The six-year-old computer whizz who passed Microsoft exam, retrieved 17 May 2015 Chris Baynes - Croydon Gardian, world's youngest person in world to pass professional Microsoft exam, retrieved 04 June 2015 Nusrat Shabnam - Urdu - Voice Of America, Meet with Humza Shahzad, world's youngest office professional, retrieved 26 May 2015 Murtaza Ali Shah - The News International, Pakistani boy becomes world’s youngest MS PowerPoint Specialist, 30 June 2015 Shabnam Mahmood - BBC Asian Network, Microsoft exams child's play for computer-mad youngsters, 07 August 2015 Murtaza Ali Shah - The News International, Six-year-old boy passes three Microsoft exams in a year, 27 August 2015

Humza.shahzad (talk) 21:16, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Humza, unfortunately the subject of your submission is deemed non-notable according to Wikipedia's notability guidelines, specifically WP:GNG. It is extremely unlikely a 7 year old boy would ever meet our notability guidelines, and definitely not by being a Microsoft certified professional. WP:BIO1E pertains to individuals which are known to have been involved with a single event by which they might have a claim to notability. The guideline states when "an individual plays a major role in a minor event...it is not generally appropriate to have an article on both the person and the event" - in this particular case, I wouldn't even consider the event notable in the slightest, casting doubt on the decline rationale for the submission, but alas the subject is non-notable per our general notability guideline. Nonetheless, thank you for submitting an article through AfC. Best, FoCuS contribs ;  talk to me!  02:51, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I am grateful for your time to help answer and would request for your further time for my concerns. Thank you so much.

well, I went through your comments and notability guidelines and though instructions are not simple enough to understand but what i have got that nutshell is "A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject." While not only references from multiple independent media sources have been provided, but even based on his unique achievements he has got tremendous coverage from the media from most of the world and if we search of "Humza Shahzad" in google returns more than 20 pages where hundreds of newspapers have given him courage. So your concern really making me confuse that Humza is extremely non-notable. Secondly my concern is that can you kindly explain then why similar articles for the other kids like "Ayan Qureshi" and "Badar Iqbal" got approval. Kindly advise. Thank you so much for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Humza.shahzad (talk • contribs) 00:36, 28 October 2015 (UTC)