Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2015 October 30

= October 30 =

00:54:01, 30 October 2015 review of submission by Mabbs001
Mabbs001 (talk) 00:54, 30 October 2015 (UTC) Just a query.../have I over citated/referenced the page "Raymond Sandover"
 * Hi - No you haven't overcited. Usually two citations will suffice as a max (unless the assertion in question is highly contentious).  Onel 5969  TT me 20:56, 30 October 2015 (UTC)


 * It's a matter of editorial judgement, so you'll get different answers from different editors. In my judgement, for this type of article, yes it is overcited. That's hardly the crime of the century, and has no effect on whether the draft will be approved.
 * A citation at the end of a paragraph is sufficient when every fact in the pargraph is supported by the same source or set of sources.
 * Consider adding introductory text before a stable list, each entry of which is supported by the same source, and attaching the citation to that text rather than repeating it for every entry on the list (e.g "He was promoted five times from 1941 through 1946:[5] list of five promotions").
 * Try to avoid interrupting the flow of the first few sentences with too many citations. The normal approach is to create a lede and a body, as described in Template:Biography. Then place the citations in the body. The lede is just a summary of the body, so the citations don't need to be repeated in the lede unless an exceptional claims is made or a direct quotation is used.


 * Much has been written about writing for Wikipedia. All of the following are good reading:


 * Citing sources
 * Help:Referencing for beginners
 * When to cite
 * Writing better articles
 * Manual of Style/Lead section


 * Worldbruce (talk) 21:42, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

14:48:54, 30 October 2015 review of submission by Accessfail
Hi there.

I created a page for my band called Hot Moth.

It was rejected due to us not meeting the notablility criteria. We have had a double page spread in a local music magazine, but no electronic copy of this, I can only provide a link to the magazines website.

Is there anything else I can do to get this page off the ground? Or do we literally need to be more "well known"..?

Cheers

Accessfail (talk) 14:48, 30 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi - Assuming this is regarding Draft:Hot Moth, yes, the band has to pass notability guidelines for an article to get published or remain on the website. You can check out the main notability guidelines at WP:GNG, or the more specific guidelines for music related articles at WP:NMUSIC.  Onel 5969  TT me 20:58, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

19:35:13, 30 October 2015 review of submission by Ryan at ITTIA
A previous draft of this page was not accepted for reading too much like an advertisement. Though I tried to use neutral language, I think it had too much detail. I have created a much simpler page with references to Dr. Dobbs, EETimes, and other notable industry publications.

Are these references sufficient? Should I remove the external links? Ryan at ITTIA (talk) 19:35, 30 October 2015 (UTC)


 * The external links are not the main challenge you face, though minimising links to the org's own site is useful. I know you have not yet submitted the draft, but I have left a comment on it which I hope you will find of help. Had I reviewed it today I would have pushed it back to you for more work Fiddle   Faddle  10:54, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your comments. Based on your feedback, it seems that the content would be okay if there were more good-quality references. I replied to your specific comments on the draft itself. Ryan at ITTIA (talk) 00:10, 5 November 2015 (UTC)