Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2015 September 22

= September 22 =

13:48:21, 22 September 2015 review of submission by Abubakar Mikail Olawale
My First article creation was flagged to be deleted, i would like to create a professional football page please help!!! Abubakar Mikail Olawale (talk) 13:48, 22 September 2015 (UTC)


 * You seem to be that professional footballer. Please do not write about yourself. Get a website or use Facebook instead. Wikipedia is not a place for you to post your resumé Fiddle   Faddle  14:51, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

14:23:44, 22 September 2015 review of submission by Llloookkkjjj
I have used a number of secondary sources and ,I believe, referenced them in the correct manner. What specifically is the issue with the article? Am I wrong In thinking a newspaper is a secondary source? I do not understand.


 * You need to look at whether Mr Smart passes WP:BIO. If you believe he does you need references meeting, broadly, WP:42 to verify that. Those two things, together, are all that is required. It may be that Start fails the first, or to may be that you cannot find the second. Either disqualifies him. Fiddle   Faddle  14:56, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

15:40:15, 22 September 2015 review of submission by Justus727
I recently created an account and an article (entitled "Stephen Tsang"). After submitting the article for review, at the top of the page it says "This is a misplaced articles for creation submission. If it is not yet ready for article space, please consider moving it to draft space rather than marking it for deletion..." How can I move it to draft space? It won't let me move it (I'm assuming because my account is too new). I don't want to change the name of the article. How do I prevent it from being deleted before it is reviewed? Why is it already flagged for deletion before being reviewed?

Justus727 (talk) 15:40, 22 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I have removed the articles for creation template, added a template indicating a problem with some of the wording, and added a category. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 15:52, 22 September 2015 (UTC)


 * You're going to need to re-write some of it in your own words, too, as it is too closely paraphrased from the sources. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 15:53, 22 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't see where you have done any of this...Where are the templates you mentioned? How can I move this draft to my sandbox? Thanks. Justus727 (talk) 16:13, 22 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I view the copyright issue as too great not to be dealt with before any other action is taken, and have flagged the article thus. There is sufficient other text to avoid summary speedy deletion in my view. There are instructions now in the large banner which replaces the article text. Fiddle   Faddle  17:42, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

17:22:24, 22 September 2015 review of submission by 205.178.205.11
205.178.205.11 (talk) 17:22, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

How do you fix a problem with their page.


 * Please be more specific in your question. Which page and what problem? Fiddle   Faddle  17:33, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

18:13:12, 22 September 2015 review of submission by 141.123.243.102
I'm not understanding how an entity (Secular Talk) that is rated by Google to be in the top 1% of YouTube news channels, (on the same list with CNN, Associated Press, NY Times, BBC, Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg, etc.) is not "notable" enough.

141.123.243.102 (talk) 18:13, 22 September 2015 (UTC)


 * We require references from significant coverage about the topic of the article, and independent of it, and in WP:RS please. See WP:42. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Fiddle   Faddle  22:17, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

18:39:02, 22 September 2015 review of submission by Bgondringer2
Hi, if you could please help me with specific reasons why my article keeps getting declined, that would be helpful. I don't understand why my sources aren't verifiable and why I haven't proven the senator's notability. I've combed through the link to understanding verifiable sources and I don't know why mine don't meet that criteria. Could you tell me specifically what is wrong with them? I keep getting told it's not good enough but with vague explanation. I can't improve the article if I don't understand what's not working. Thanks

Bgondringer2 (talk) 18:39, 22 September 2015 (UTC)Brittany Gondringer


 * One outstanding issue is the total lack of inline citations. See Referencing for beginners for how to add these.


 * Another is the rather promotional wording:
 * "works to create a more modern and robust democracy for all Nebraskans"
 * "engages youth through substantive community service learning and leadership programs"
 * "providing a strong voice for working Nebraskans"
 * Is some of this copied from somewhere? See COPYPASTE. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 06:48, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Is some of this copied from somewhere? See COPYPASTE. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 06:48, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Request on 20:24:16, 22 September 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Bgondringer2
My article on Sen. Adam Morfeld (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Adam_Morfeld) keeps getting declined. I could use assistance on how to improve this article. The primary critique is that my sources are not verifiable. I have used articles published by an unbiased, well-respected, third party newspaper so I don't understand how to make it more clear that the senator is noteworthy and therefore a valid topic for a Wikipedia article. I'm not sure what exactly I am supposed to change in order to make this correct so if I could have a clear explanation of what to do, that would be great. I've already looked through what makes sources verifiable and I believe I am within those bounds. If I am not, please explain why. Thank you.

Bgondringer2 (talk) 20:24, 22 September 2015 (UTC)Brittany Gondringer

Bgondringer2 (talk) 20:24, 22 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I have not checked your references, but I have pushed the draft back to you for some further technical work, with a comment on the draft explaining it in some detail. Fiddle   Faddle  22:21, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

21:45:21, 22 September 2015 review of submission by Smrondeau
Hello, I am glad to see that my article was accepted. However, I am a bit puzzled about why it was given stub status? I read through the criteria for a stub status article, and it seems that insufficient reference source citations explaining why the subject is significant are usually missing from the article. I am puzzled because I cite several secondary sources, including Opera Canada, the Canadian Encyclopedia and AllMusic, among a couple others. I would like to see this article be pushed up to at least start status and would appreciate additional direction to make that happen.

Thanks! Sophie

Smrondeau (talk) 21:45, 22 September 2015 (UTC)


 * This is a discussion to have with the reviewer who accepted the draft, please. Fiddle   Faddle  22:18, 22 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I have boldly re-rated the article as Start-class in all projects. Hopefully the accepting reviewer User:Sulfurboy does not mind too much. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 06:44, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * You as the main contributing editor and page creator should not establish the status of your own page for potential inherent bias reasons. I will be reverting your edits. I would encourage that you page whatever projects you attach to the article for the project people to rate the page. Thanks. Sulfurboy (talk) 02:18, 24 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Looking at the article history linked above, I don't agree that I am a main contributing editor nor creator of the page. I have put the Start level assessments back in place. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 12:26, 24 September 2015 (UTC)