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= August 17 =

The Coyne DC-1 needs Article verifications and needs to be rewritten and a lot of reseach of this car please?
 * What is the question? I think that you have answered the question.  It needs references, which will involve research.  Read referencing for beginners on how to do the references, and Your first article.  Robert McClenon (talk) 14:23, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Rowde (talk) 10:00, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Request on 13:41:01, 17 August 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Lizzie656
My draft of a page for Dr. Sharon Weiss-Greenberg was rejected partly because the same information was uploaded to my User page and I was mistaken as have written the page about myself, but I am not Sharon Weiss-Greenberg, and as a new Wikipedia editor accidentally uploaded all the information I meant to use towards creating a page to my user page. I have just fixed this error, but still have questions. It also said my article didn't sound like it was from a neutral point of view-how can I change that? I also said that the sources I used were written by the subject of the article, which inst true. I will rewrite my submission in compliance with the policies as best as I can but am a little muddled on how to include more verfiable sources when in my opinion the article is loaded with sources. Lizzie656 (talk) 13:41, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Lizzie656 (talk) 13:41, 17 August 2016 (UTC)


 * It looks like some of this is may be a problem with how you are approaching the lead. Normally you want to give a brief overview of who the person is, and then hit a couple of the most important points about them. Compare two hypothetical leads on me (this is all completely made up off the top of my head):

Number one:

Number two:


 * The first one sounds like you're trying to sell me like a used car. The second one is very to-the-point, and just gives the bare essentials needed for someone to figure out who we're talking about. All the gory details can fit just fine in the body, but are probably a bit much for the lead. Hope this helps. Timothy Joseph Wood  15:27, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Oops. Forgot to ping . Timothy Joseph Wood  15:27, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

15:50:21, 17 August 2016 review of submission by Tpalum24
The page I recently submitted for review has been flagged for potential copyright use, I understand why this has been flagged and have changed the draft in a Word document to not contain copyright infringing material. I was wondering if someone could steer me in the direction of what I am supposed to do, either about making another draft or if i should just edit the draft itself. There is a template stating that it is being investigated and I don't think I should just delete the template since it states not to.

I tried to make a temporary subpage with the changes but it got immediately deleted. I must have read the instructions incorrectly on what to do and obviously did something incorrectly.

Any advice would be helpful.

Thanks Tpalum24 (talk) 15:50, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
 * You could either remove the template and the contet which is copyright infringing, and add new content. Someone will then request the old revisions of the article to be deleted. Or you could just wait for the investigation, which will remove the infringing content and the template and then you can either rewrite if necessary, or resubmit for review. (t) Josve05a  (c) 20:18, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

20:01:44, 17 August 2016 review of submission by Incredibleshane
Hello, Steve Herndon, the former NFL player has asked me to add an image to his wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Herndon there is an automated block on the page to edit it in any way it seems. Please let me know how to proceed. Steve has full rights to the image I'm trying to upload. Thank you. Incredibleshane (talk) 20:01, 17 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi . It's strange that you can't edit the article, it's not protected as far as I can tell.
 * However, the first hurdle is getting your image uploaded. Wikipedia has to be very strict about the licensing of its images. I notice you've already asked about that at Media copyright questions, but one thing they haven't suggested is that if Mr. Herndon owns the photos he could simply create an account on Wikimedia Commons himself (preferably under his real name) and upload and release the image personally. You could then easily include it on the Wikipedia article (or ask someone else to, if the "block" problem persists). That removes the need for an OTRS request, which unfortunately are taking upwards of six months to clear at the moment. Joe Roe (talk) 22:36, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi Joe, Steve did exactly what you said and the image was removed. He was told to do an OTRS request. On the last line of his Wikipedia page it references him working at Safety Net Recovery. I am just trying to get the same image from Safety Net Recovery's website on his Wikipedia page. As you can see there isn't even a copyright warning on Safety Net's website https://www.safetynetrecovery.com/our-staff/ Please advise. Thank you. I'm just trying to use the same image on that link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Incredibleshane (talk • contribs) 15:59, 19 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Sorry to hear that. Images and licensing can be a bit of a nightmare around here.
 * Photographs are automatically copyrighted unless the author explicitly asserts otherwise, so unfortunately the lack of a copyright notice on the web page doesn't help us. Because the image has been previously published elsewhere we need the ORTS request to prove that it has been released under a license Wikipedia can use.
 * I had assumed you meant an original, unpublished photo before, sorry. If Mr. Herndon had uploaded one of those we would be able to simply take his assertion that he owned the work and that he released it. Otherwise, you will have to go through the OTRS process (which will work eventually, it just takes some time.) Joe Roe (talk) 16:24, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

23:15:30, 17 August 2016 review of submission by Laura bachrach
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Hello, I resubmitted my AFC on July 25 and it has not yet been reviewed. I understand that there is a backlog... Should I contact the first person who reviewed the article originally and provided me feedback? I have continued to refine the article since I last submitted. I look forward to hearing from someone. Thank you. Laura

Laura bachrach (talk) 23:15, 17 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately there is a particularly severe backlog at the moment and it may take several weeks for your submission to be reviewed. You're welcome to contact the person who last reviewed it, although ordinarily it wouldn't be them who reviewed it for the second time and they'd be under no obligation to. Often a second opinion is useful. You may just have to be patient, I'm afraid. Joe Roe (talk) 23:39, 17 August 2016 (UTC)