Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2016 August 3

= August 3 =

01:09:20, 3 August 2016 review of submission by John21rope
I have been researching heave compensation systems for offshore drilling, there is some info on your site but it's quite poor. I found a list related to oilfield service companies, and it's not too bad, but it's missing lots of companies, especially in australia. I thought I'd start adding to the list...I added ICON Engineering Pty Ltd I figured that's how wikipedia has grown. anyhow the entries I've made have dissapeared. I'm not sure why. I was going to add some more companies to improve the list..it really does need updating, but I'm concerned any work I do might be deleted. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong. Happy to contribute to wiki..only a learner at this stage.

This is the list:-  List_of_oilfield_service_companies

John21rope (talk) 01:16, 3 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi . Welcome to the Articles for Creation help desk. ICON Engineering Pty Ltd was deleted for being purely promotional. There are many ways to improve Wikipedia other than creating new articles. You might have more success if you started with smaller steps to gain experience and take time to familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's many policies and guidelines. --Worldbruce (talk) 05:25, 3 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi . Thankyou very much for your prompt response. What a quick turn around. I did actually start on this excercise with a small step, because I saw the list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oilfield_service_companies and noticed it was a very incomplete inaccurate and a somewhat misinformed list, I was going to have a crack at improving, as I've been doing research in this area, and was previously a very active editor on dmoz project, which of course is a very different project. So as a small step, I simply added one link to one company, and the link was deleted. I figured I could improve the list and add some more informaiton on other companies which will be of interest to most reaserchers using wikipedia. The list as it currenlty stands is really lacking companies from SE Asia/Australia/Indonesia/Singapore and if the list was a list of hospitals in a city or museums in a city or say movie production commpanies, or for that matter software companies, wouldn't it be a shame if the list was inaccurate or incomplete. People would basically simply not use wikipedia as a place of accurate reference for those subjects. I'm very happy to comply with the guidelines, and learn more about them, so I'm interetsed to understand specifically what was wrong with the page and why it doesn't comply when lined up against some of the other entries in the list_of_oilfield_service_companies. It would be good to add missing companies like allseas, heerema, diamond offshore, and a whole list of others. Leaving these companies off the list is equivalent to leaving microsoft or intel off the list of computer companies. John21rope (talk) 10:43, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

08:12:35, 3 August 2016 review of submission by WhisperToMe
I am a longtime editor of Wikipedia (since 2003) and I was not the original author of this article (I just added sources to someone else's submission). I think this can survive AFD. Is it okay if I just "approve it" or jump it out of the queue somehow? I think taking over a month to look over the submission is too long. WhisperToMe (talk) 08:12, 3 August 2016 (UTC)


 * When you wrote your question, it was not in any queue. I have just submitted it for approval myself. If you want to help with getting it accepted, you could improve the referencing by adding another reference or two to reliable independent sources. Maproom (talk) 09:53, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I had pressed the button to submit it... I'm not sure what went wrong... WhisperToMe (talk) 10:32, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Added a Chinese source to the further reading section. Additional sources may be in Chinese WhisperToMe (talk) 13:27, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

08:29:49, 3 August 2016 review of submission by AnnaDaragan
Hello, I would like to change the name of the article from Sixa,Inc. to Sixa. Could you help me with that? Thanks in advance AnnaDaragan (talk) 08:29, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ WhisperToMe (talk) 08:42, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

14:40:07, 3 August 2016 review of submission by Samparker108
Hi there, I'm just wondering when I can expect this draft to be reviewed. The page says it may take "a week or more" but it's been a few weeks and I want to know what I can do to expedite the process. Thanks!

Samparker108 (talk) 14:40, 3 August 2016 (UTC)


 * ✅ Mduvekot (talk) 15:05, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

16:46:54, 3 August 2016 review of submission by Erix Logan
I'm writing here accepting invitation by a TeaHouse message following a message from Robert McClenon saying my article was declined. It seems like the article has been declined for two main reasons: Reason 1: "The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes. For instructions on how to do this, please see Referencing for beginners".

followed by this comment: "This draft does not have footnotes in the body of the article. See referencing for beginners. First sentence at top of draft is unnecessary. Delete it when making other corrections".

Reason 2: "...Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged..."

I have 3 questions: 1) if the lack of footnotes will be solved and they would be added, would the article been reconsidered for acceptance? 2) if the autobiography instead of being created by myself will be made by an external part hence not being an autobiography anymore would it be accepted? 3) my fellow Canadian and colleague Greg Frewin, who does my same job except he does in his permanent theatre in Niagara Falls is present on Wikipedia with his page. What is the difference between his being accepted and me being declined? Is all still referring to the lack of footnotes from my side and his is not an autobiography, or besides those two reasons there is something else? If that "something else" might be that my colleague and fiend Greg is meeting the minimum Wikipedia's standard then please define those standard for me please. As a matter of fact I have a much longer and wider documented carrer; I have appeared on more tv network worldwide and have been mentioned in magic books and international press. Not only Greg Frewin is present on Wikipedia but many others magicians following exactly my same path and level of career are listed in Wikipedia. Why not me? Please understand I don't mean to discuss your criteria, but I need to understand what I did wrong compared to others. Of course I hope that by correcting everything that needs to be corrected you could reconsider including the page Erix Logan in Wikipedia. Many thanks for your reply and attention on this case. Best regards Erix Logan (talk) 16:46, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * The fact that someone else "has" a Wikipedia article (and people don't have Wikipedia articles, because Wikipedia has articles about people) doesn't mean that someone else should have one. See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS.  It may mean that their article should be deleted.  As to whether your article would have been considered for acceptance if it had footnotes, the answer is that it would probably have been considered.  The lack of footnotes was reason in itself to decline it.  If it had footnotes, whether it would be accepted would depend largely on the quality of the references.  If you are now planning to hire someone to revise the article in order to get it accepted, they don't avoid the conflict of interest guidelines, and in fact will run into the even harsher paid editing policy.  Robert McClenon (talk) 13:03, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi Robert McClenon (talk) many thanks for your very useful comments. To get re-started I will revise the whole article adding the requested footnotes.

21:33:57, 3 August 2016 review of draft by STAOPO2016
I posted an article about my company but it was up for deletion. Are references the only thing i need to not have it taken down? STAOPO2016 (talk) 21:33, 3 August 2016 (UTC)