Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2016 June 26

= June 26 =

Request on 08:46:04, 26 June 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Micko.west
Hi, I am unclear as to what this comment means ' Remove all in-line http links - not allowed.', left by the reviewer. My submission has been rejected because of lack of reliable & verifiable sources. I thought that the way to do this was by citing references through htttp links. If all these have to be removed, please inform me as to how external sources are to be cited. Also, I have lots of reliable and reputable sources that are pre internet, is it possible to scan these documents and include them with my submission. Finally, is there a conflict of interest with the page being submitted by myself about my music/acting career?

Many thanks

micko westmoreland

Micko.west (talk) 08:46, 26 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi Micko.west, there is a definite and strict difference between references and external links. A reference link is formatted so that the actual link appears in the "References" list at the end of the article. Only links to other Wikipedia pages may appear directly in the article text. The most basic way to turn a link into a reference is by "wrapping" it in ref tags, like this: "The moon is made of cheese. " which ends up displayed as: "The moon is made of cheese. " and creates an entry in the references list like this:


 * I hope this helps. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:34, 26 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi . With respect to the other parts of your question, yes, a person has a conflict of interest when they are writing an autobiography. We won't stop you from trying to writing an article about yourself, but it's extraordinarily difficult - almost impossible to do in a way that it will be accepted on Wikipedia.
 * Pre-internet sources may be used. The way to reference them is similar to that of on-line sources, only without the url. For example:  --Worldbruce (talk) 16:53, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

12:48:33, 26 June 2016 review of submission by Royrizzo
roy cameron (talk) 12:48, 26 June 2016 (UTC) who is this Anna Frodesiak! I AM THE SON OF BOB CAMERON AND IT IS SO HARD TO NAVIGATE THIS SITE, IT IS UNBELIEVABLE! HOW DO I GET THESE PEOPLE TO POST THE STORY OF MY DAD? ONE GUY ASKED FOR HIS DEATH CERTIFICATE AND I PROVIDED IT. IT SAY'S RIGHT ON THERE - CAUSE OF DEATH- THERMAL DESTRUCTION OF THE BODY. WHAT ELSE DO THEY WANT? I HAVE PROVIDED ARTICLES OF HIS DEATH. A COPY OF HIS 1952 DRIVER'S PIN, OLD NASCAR MEDALS AND 1949 NEW YORK STATE NASCAR CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHY AND SILVER PLATTER. he was burned alive in front of 4000 people on June 5th, 1960 amd the MoptorSports Hall of Fame was nice enough to add him Posthumously. Who is this women and why does she get stisfaction from having my Dad's name removed from the motorsports memorial?


 * Hi . [[Image:Pictogram voting comment.svg|20px]] This page is for questions about the Articles for creation process. Questions about edits on an existing article such as Motorsports Hall of Fame of America should be discussed on the talk page of that article.
 * If you wish to continue working on your draft (User:Royrizzo/sandbox) about your father, we can help you with that. The Associated Press story about his death is a good start. Are there more books or newspaper or magazine articles about races he competed in, perhaps one that says he was NASCAR track Champion at Brewerton Speedway in 1950? Unpublished emails may not be used as sources on Wikipedia. Is there a published news report of him being added to the Motorsports Hall of Fame of America? If you need assistance identifying sources, WikiProject Motorsport may be able to help. They may also be able to help you navigate the intricacies of the notability guideline for Motorsport figures. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:20, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
 * When I reviewed your sandbox in February 2016, I asked that you put the references into standard Wikipedia format. Please see Referencing and Referencing for Beginners.  If you need help, please ask for help.  Also, please do not SHOUT.  The use of ALL UPPER CASE is considering SHOUTING on the Internet and is considered rude.  Robert McClenon (talk) 03:16, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

15:42:34, 26 June 2016 review of submission by Raju Dubai
Seeks assistance to tidy up the page TPConnects with references. Thank you for your assistance in advance

Raju Dubai (talk) 15:42, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

19:30:21, 26 June 2016 review of submission by Arkachatterjea
I am a great admirer of wikipedia. I have made many entries and numerous corrections to existing entries. As a 53+ years old academic, I am not tech-savvy. I use whatever tools I can of wikipedia's increasingly complex editing tools and do my best.

Sarat Chandra Chattopadhyay is arguably India's most popular novelist (please see wiki entry--parts of it were edited by me, but not all--esp the section about his recognition was done by others). Many people consider his work Nobel Prize material. However, English translations of his work has been poor, and that has prevented his great works from getting their recognition.

I created a summary of Sarat Chandra's short story "Paresh." Unfortunately, it has been deleted. Wiki is requiring greater citations (I, of course, referred to the original story in Bengali, available on a website which has all his works). This creates a chicken and egg problem: Unless there's a translation and citation, future works cannot happen. Where does one begin?

Sadly, so many insignificant people from the Indian subcontient (small time professors, ordinary artists, ...) create big entries about them in wiki while widely respected Sarat Chandra's prominent works get thrown out.

Arkachatterjea (talk) 19:30, 26 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi, welcome to the Articles for Creation Help Desk. Draft:Paresh was deleted because it was left unedited for six months. If you wish to retrieve it and continue working on it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. In most cases an administrator will restore it for you.


 * The draft was declined on 15 November 2015 for failing to show that the topic was notable. Because it was later deleted, I can't tell why the draft failed to meet the notability criteria, but it would not have had anything to do with the language of the story or that of the sources. If academics such as yourself have written a few articles in scholarly journals about "Pradesh", or spent a few pages discussing it in books, then citing those works would show that it's eligible for a Wikipedia article. It would only be a chicken-and-egg problem if publishers refused to publish analyses of "Pradesh" because it doesn't have an article on the English Wikipedia, something I hope no reputable publisher would be ignorant enough to do.


 * If "Pradesh" isn't a viable topic at this time, consider improving Sarat Chandra Chattopadhyay or the three articles about books he wrote, all of which are in dire need of help. Or start an article about another one of his books. It can be easier to show notability of a book than of a short story because there are special notability criteria for books. --Worldbruce (talk) 00:42, 27 June 2016 (UTC)