Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2016 November 3

= November 3 =

00:54:02, 3 November 2016 review of submission by Cahadley
Hello, my submission for David Breskin was declined due to lack of sources and the concern about promoting the subject's website. I removed the website URL for now, in order to receive approval on the draft, though eventually I would like to add it back in, but do it per the Wiki guidelines. I see many other subjects having websites listed in their Wiki entries so I just need to understand how to properly do it. I'm told I need to create an Infobox and then insert the URL there. The website is purely informational with no commercial component. Nothing is for sale; it's solely to provide access to the subjects writings and information about the music he's produced.

As for the concern about the article not being sourced enough, I have over 42 sources (!) but will add more for any facts that aren't substantiated, such as his birth date and place, college he attended, etc.

Are there any other specific changes that I need to make, in order to get this article approved?

Thank you for your help! I'm a first time Wiki editor and the process is very difficult, though I understand why it must be so. Cahadley (talk) 00:54, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Cahadley (talk) 00:54, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Your draft was declined not so much due to "lack of sources", of which you have many, but to portions of your draft being unsourced, and, more importantly, because of a promotional tone. An infobox is a nice-to-have; it is not essential, and its lack is not preventing acceptance of your draft.  However, a draft should have a neutral tone not only with respect to commercial web sites but with respect to non-commercial web sites.  Wikipedia not only isn't here to promote commercial web sites; it isn't here to publicize non-commercial web sites, but rather to describe what others have already written about non-commercial web sites.  Robert McClenon (talk) 02:36, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Request on 06:55:37, 3 November 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Foursy
Foursy (talk) 06:55, 3 November 2016 (UTC) Hello. Can you help me? I don't know why my article has not been accepted? Please help.

Foursy (talk) 06:55, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello, Foursy. Your question was already answered in your posting from October 29, which is here.  If we can be of any further help, please let us know.  NewYorkActuary (talk) 07:39, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Request on 16:27:11, 3 November 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Karadirosa
I am wondering why the sources for the article I created were not adequate. I see references to institutional websites and [digital] publications/newspapers frequently on Wikipedia. For the article I was creating in particular, I felt there were more than substantial sources provided. Thank you for any insight!

Karadirosa (talk) 16:27, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello, Kara. Thank you for your contribution to Wikipedia.  The best source of information as to why your submission was declined is the reviewer who looked at it.  You'll find a button to that reviewer's Talk page at the top of your draft.  But I took a look at your submission prior to posting here, and I think I understand what the reviewer intended.  When discussing the suitability of a topic for Wikipedia, we look at a variety of considerations and several of them overlap.  In particular, whether or not a source is reliably independent of the subject of the article can be both a question of "reliability" and of "notability".  And the reviewer is quite correct about your use of Wikipedia as a reference and also has a legitimate concern about sourcing the subject's involvement with the art gallery to the web site of the gallery.  But I also see your side of the matter, in that the draft does include references that presumably are independent of the subject and the gallery.
 * I'm inclined to accept your draft for publication, but only after some modifications which I'll list later today on the draft itself. I also want to alert the reviewer about my intentions.   if I'm missing something here, please leave a comment on the draft.
 * Finally, Kara, your user name suggests that you are a member of the subject's family. If you have not already done so, you might want to read our guideline on conflicts of interest.  I also noticed that you've been adding links to the art gallery on several other pages.  I'll comment on that on your own Talk page.  NewYorkActuary (talk) 17:41, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ (talk) 17:49, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

17:16:53, 3 November 2016 review of submission by Palofpups
I uploaded a picture to the Jeremy Bronson page under my account, but it doesn't show up on his page. I indicated that it was supposed to be for his page when I uploaded it, but it says "No pages on the English Wikipedia link to this file. (Pages on other projects are not counted.)" Is this because the image is still undergoing an approval process? Thanks in advance for your help! Palofpups (talk) 17:16, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello, Palofpups. It seems that you figured out the problem yourself.  Thanks again for your contribution to Wikipedia.  NewYorkActuary (talk) 17:50, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

18:03:17, 3 November 2016 review of submission by TFIPR
Hi, I am requesting a re-review because I was told that the page reads more like a resume. I have begun to make the suggested changes but have a question about the "Community Service" section. I have visited a few Wiki pages and see similar sections entitled "Philanthropy" and other titles. Not really sure why it must be changed into paragraph/prose form.
 * To request a re-review, simply resubmit the article.  JTP ( talk • contribs) 14:31, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

18:38:46, 3 November 2016 review of submission by Omdkc
Hi there, I've submitted an article to be approved on theatrical and film producer Susan R. Rose. I am having trouble understanding "sourcing" properly, as I think thats a reason why the article is being declined. I know I could find news articles and other things online about Susan, but I don't know exactly how to present those/put them into the article, to make it "worthy" of posting.

Are the other reasons that are holding me back? How many editors need to "accept" the post before it could go live?

Thanks!

Omdkc (talk) 18:38, 3 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Omdkc, see guidance at Help:Referencing for beginners. Timothy Joseph Wood  19:15, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Only one reviewer needs to accept a draft before it can go live. However, the current draft, with a lot of placeholders and no real references (only a placeholder), is not very close to being ready to go live.  What is holding you back is basically that the draft isn't close to complete.  Robert McClenon (talk) 02:28, 4 November 2016 (UTC)