Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2016 October 27

= October 27 =

06:55:02, 27 October 2016 review of submission by Foursy
Foursy (talk) 06:55, 27 October 2016 (UTC) My areticle was not accepted. It said I have to edit the article and then resubmit it again. I really need help about what do my article need to improve? Is there anything wrong? So please help me. Thank you Foursy (talk) 06:55, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello, Foursy. Thank you for your contribution to Wikipedia.  I took a look at your submission and noticed that the sole reference was a brief description of the market at a hotel-booking web site.  This is likely not enough to establish the market as "notable" in the sense that Wikipedia uses the word.  Rather than having a separate article, this brief amount of information might be better placed as a short sentence in the Markets section of the article on Chatuchak District.  NewYorkActuary (talk) 15:23, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Request on 08:15:35, 27 October 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Batushka2
My articles have been refused. First refused because there was no Artist page, so I created one, then refused because the links were not considered independent. As the links included an independent reference site and also national newspapers (one being The Independent newspaper) and from credible professional journalists; I cannot say I understand. Can anybody help me?

Batushka2 (talk) 08:15, 27 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi . User:Batushka2/sandbox, a draft biography of Marek Rymaszewski, contains six sources:
 * The Despicable Mischief Of Marek Rymaszewski is the home page of Rymaszewski's album, and thus not independent
 * Robin Millar, Frieda Hughes, and Glide Magazine don't mention Rymaszewski
 * AllMusic only lists Rymaszewski as composer of a track, it is not in-depth coverage
 * Jac Bowie appears to be a self-published blog, and thus not a reliable source, in any case it mentions Rymaszewski only briefly: "'Death Is Not Enough', written by Marek Rymaszewski, is a show stopper in every sense."


 * The user-space draft doesn't refer to The Independent or to any newspaper, national or otherwise. Searching www.independent.co.uk for "Rymaszewski" resulted in one match, . It credits Rymaszewski, along with "a flock of additional contributors", with making a musical, but says nothing more about him.


 * Wikipedia is for summarizing information about topics of which the world at large has already taken significant notice, as evidenced by in-depth coverage in multiple reliable sources independent of the subject and of each other. You may be grossly underestimating how difficult it is to clear this bar of notability, how difficult it is to prove the significant and demonstrable effects that would justify the subject's inclusion. Based on these sources the subject does not appear to be a suitable topic for a stand alone encyclopedia article. Wikipedia is not for advertising, marketing, or public relations. --Worldbruce (talk) 18:39, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Request on 08:15:57, 27 October 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Diamend
First of all, thanks for your help. I am quite new to wikipedia so had no expectation of a first submission being accepted and definitely need help. I am trying to put together a page about my great grandfather, A.J.Coles. I have one published source,(Jan Stewer by Douglas Cock, Moonraker Press) family stories, pictures, some books he wrote, his second favourite typewriter, and am just applying to Devon Archives in order to look at some material my aunt gave to them to preserve.

I have no idea how to source the article except to put the book reference, but I should have more material such as his own notes or letters once i gAve hear back fromantic Devon Archives. Unfortunately a fire destroyed a lot of his earlier originals and his favourite typewriter, so there is not as much as could be expected.

Probably too much information but any advice would be helpful.

Diamend Diamend (talk) 08:15, 27 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi . Being a descendant of Albert John Coles creates a conflict of interest when you write about him. If you decide to write about him anyway, be sure to follow the instructions on your talk page about how to disclose the conflict.


 * A book-length biography is an excellent start to gathering sources. A single source is never enough, so I've added a "further reading" section to the draft containing several local newspaper articles that could be mined for content. Ideally you also would be able to find scholarly sources. Have any academics studied his work? A research university library may be able to help with access to databases and advice. His personal papers will no doubt be interesting to you, and may suggest places to search or search terms to use, but will be of limited direct use when writing for Wikipedia because they are unpublished, primary sources, and not independent. The bulk of any Wikipedia article should be based on published, independent, reliable, secondary sources.


 * When citing the book, be sure to specify page numbers. To make it easier to verify, I urge you to use inline citations throughout, at least at the end of every paragraph. I also recommend that you employ some form of shortened footnotes to avoid repetition. --Worldbruce (talk) 20:15, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

08:49:34, 27 October 2016 review of submission by Alynetam
When one googles Michael Christopher Brown, a photographer at the legendary Magnum Photos agency, the first ten pages of links feature just this photojournalist. That is, he is a photojournalist who spends his time researching and reporting on stories around the world for international publications. [Repeatedly working with and shooting for Vanity Fair, Vogue, The New York Times, TIME Magazine, Nationgal Geographic, Magnum Photos, and many more.] He is not say a fine art photographer motivated towards activities that might facilitate his works being acquired in a permanent museum, a different genre and world within photography, which seems is the main reason why this page was not accepted. His notability therefore cannot be judged as an art photographer, for photojournalists one builds credibility with publications not permanent collections.

Here are some of the publications about Michael and featuring his work as reference.

The NYT Magazine – The I.C.C. The NYT Magazine – The Deported Vogue – Reggae Revival The NYT Magazine – Jane Goodall Is Still Wild at Heart The NYT Magazine – Why Not Us Women? The NYT Magazine – Next Year in Havana The NYT Magazine – On the African Front The New Republic – Central African Republic The NYT Magazine – Jeffrey Wright’s Gold Mine T Magazine – Alexander Payne The New Republic – Cairo Le Journal de la Photographie – Airport Smithsonian – Airport KYUR8 – F.A.R.D.C. Newsweek – Inside M23 Time – Hurricane Sandy Time – An iPhone in Congo FOAM Magazine – Libya Burn – Libya, China & Russia National Geographic Magazine – Young, Angry, and Wired Time – The War in Libya Wired – Jamming Tripoli Smithsonian – Women during Libya’s Revolution The Atlantic – Mr. Zhang Portfolio – Thirsty Land National Geographic Magazine – The MK The Atlantic – Made in China Time – Rome National Geographic Magazine – Redwoods Time – Cory Booker NPR – Sakhalin Smithsonian – Kashgar Time – Ordos Time – China’s High-Speed Rail National Geographic Magazine – Circling Alaska Lens Culture – Kabul Newsweek – China’s Red Restaurants Like Father, Like Son War of Images Pari Dukovic Interview Victor Cobo Interview Vice – Libyan Sugar Photo-eye – Libyan Sugar American Photo – Libyan Sugar Alyne Tamir – Interview CNN – Libyan Sugar ABC – Libyan Sugar Medium Washington Post – Libyan Sugar Photograph Magazine – Libyan Sugar The New Yorker – Witness: Libya HBO – Witness: Libya Der Tagesspiegel – Libya Foto.no – Sidi Bilal Spiegel – Libya Vice National Geographic – Congo Russia Today – Sakhalin Mac-On-Campus – Libya The Photo Brigade Digital Photo Pro Voices of Photography Jetset Magazine National Geographic Italy Alessia Glaviano Blog Left Field Project We Are Juxt Instagramers Italia Goblin Magazine


 * If you want to convince us that Michael Christopher Brown is notable, you'll have to do it by the referencing in the draft. (It seems to me that this is already sufficient, though the references to interviews with him, and to a blog, don't help.) But posting a long lists of sources here does not help at all. Maproom (talk)