Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2017 April 12

= April 12 =

Request on 02:04:29, 12 April 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Dandelionz
Dear Articles for Creation. I am worried about the rejection by Robert McClennon and wikipedia of a draft article I have posted on US-Australian unterior architect/designer George Henry Freedman. On checking your criteria for notability, re creative professionals, it seems that he complied with all four of the criteria, as follows: 1. The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors. (Freedman certainly is widely cited by the leading interior architect/designer of his generation in Australia, by multiple editors of all industry magazines, by his client architects (who were the leading architects of his day), by his design peers, and by the younger designers and architects that he employed and trained (who include the leading Sydney designers and architects of the following two generations to Freedman). 2. The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory, or technique (We said that Freedman was internationally known for his daring colour schemes, materials palettes, furniture designs and rigorous attention to construction details. He was repeatedly selected as the lead juror for the prestigious annual Dulux Colour Awards in Australia.) 3. The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series) or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews. (Freedman and his interiors were regularly promoted in Australia’s most prestigious design and architecture magazines, he was also regularly mentioned in the ‘Style’ section of the Sydney Morning Herald as one of Sydney’s important tastemakers and designers.) 4. The person's work (or works) either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums. (Re a. Freedman’s interiors for Sydney’s Powerhouse Museum of Applied Arts and Sciences remain largely intact and are visited by thousands of people per day. Re b) He designed and exhibited the sets for three major Sydney Dance Company performances. Re c. He won extensie and significant critical attention over three decades of work in Australia. d. Items of his furniture are in the collections of museums, eg cocktail trolley archived by the Museum of Applied Arts and Sciences.

I am sorry that I didn't include all his publication references (just the major ones). Here is the full list of his publications—excluding the key articles on him that he was asked to write for design magazines, and the articles that I published about him when I was a design maagazine journalist.


 * Extensive list of references moved to Draft talk:George Freedman

Could you advise how to add this information and seek a reconsideration of the rejection of the draft article. Also could you advise how best to fix the tone issue (overly supportive?) that your reviewer has questioned.

Regards Dandelionz Dandelionz (talk) 02:04, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Reply - In order to deal with the citations issue, in your rewrite, make sure to only include material you have cited to major sources, and remove everything else. Citing_Sources is a good starting point if you are unsure of what good sources are. Think less instead of more. In terms of the tone issue, see Neutral_Point_of_View for more information. Some phrases that are particular problems include: "most prestigious and prosperous families", "widely known for his waspish wit, warm laugh...", and "recognised by design and architecture industry experts for his daring". Making an effort to present the material without lauding or commentary will help you achieve your goal, if indeed the subject matter proves to be notable. Isingness (talk) 02:34, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
 * NOTE: I've moved the extensive listing of references over to the draft's Talk page. NewYorkActuary (talk) 11:21, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

09:40:52, 12 April 2017 review of submission by Laureneseca
I wrote an article about Jean-Luc Allavena a French businessman on the English version of Wikipedia. This article is a translation of the French wikipedia article about Jean-Luc Allavena https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Luc_Allavena. I added exactly the same references. But my article has been rejected, I don't understand why. Could you help me? Thanks and best, Laurène Laureneseca (talk) 09:40, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, Laurenseca. Policies about notability differ between Wikipedia versions; notability may be different on the French Wikipedia than here, but you may want to contact the reviewer(s) to get further clarification.  JTP (talk • contribs) 17:19, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

21:02:13, 12 April 2017 review of submission by HankitoJ
My original submission was rejected due to a lack of citations. I found a number of references all of which seemed to work fine except one: Citation [2]. Once I saved the document the reference did not show up in the references section although the various document entry locations did. This is the only citation I manually entered, as it is not found in a published location. It is a military document that records a person's military service. The entry I created is: DD Form 214, Armed Forces of the United States Report of Transfer or Discharge When I tried to edit the document to correct it I was unable to get it to work. Can you suggest something?HankitoJ (talk) 21:02, 12 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Reply - You need to remove the " " after "< ref name=":0" >", and the final two "< /ref >". Basically you just entered extra code. Isingness (talk) 21:16, 12 April 2017 (UTC)