Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2017 April 19

= April 19 =

10:54:01, 19 April 2017 review of submission by TGSTINT
Hi there, i have problems to find notable sources. I read the guidlines about notability and reliable sources now several times - and can not see how the current used references in my draft dont agree with them - and what else to use.

Before my first submission I looked for online sources showing the biographical steps over the years the person i write the draft about took - this was declined - which i understand. Before my second submission I checked the reliablility of sources and authors of the used online references. Each one works or worked at some point in professional journalism or at radio/music stations (its a draft about a musician) - all off them for newspapers that are well know (like guardian and new york times etc.) - still declined. I can't see where this does not fit the guidelines but anyway. Before my current submissions I added print media - books and magazines with articles about the musician. Also an encyclopedia entry is added mentioning her. Most of these references and authors even got their own wikipedia page themselves which i linked in the reference section. Again it is declined. And I again can not see where this does not fit the guidelines - but this time all added print references are worldwide published and mostly even world famous (which probably lead to them having their own wikipedia article).

My quesion is quite simple: what else can I use to show notability? Online sources by professional journalists and worldwide published books and magazines by professional journalists do not seem to be enough. So - as I have no clue what else to use - where else can I search? What medium can show notability?
 * Reply - I would direct you to the following document: Notability_(music) . Upon a cursory reading of your page I am not sure she is notable outside of the bands she participated in that already have pages, however this document should help with your understanding of when a musician should be added to Wikipedia and when their content is either not appropriate or better appended to a different entry. Isingness (talk) 23:47, 19 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Reply -

Thats exactly my problem as i already read that guideline several times - and am quite sure my draft matches those when possible (didnt win any music prices, golden album etc). But guess i will see what reason the reviewer gives for declining - as i can show with my references 11 points in the guidelines you linked that my draft covers. thx--87.122.249.54 (talk) 08:12, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Reply - If they do not meet any of the basic points of the policy, as you've stated, the subject would need to meet GNG in order to be seen as a valuable addition to Wikipedia. However, generally you will want to write about subjects where such achievements as Gold records or major music awards are part of their career if you are looking to create entries in your future contributions. Isingness (talk) 23:45, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

13:10:42, 19 April 2017 review of submission by RoxanneCrossleyScality
Hello, I am trying to post an article about french entrepreneur Jerome Lecat. He is the CEO of Scality. The bio which is used is the one I also wrote for the Scality website - so it is the same. How can I let wikipedia know that I am the one who wrote this bio and that there is therefore no copyright problem? Thanks a lot. Roxanne

RoxanneCrossleyScality (talk) 13:10, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, Roxanne. Thank you for your interest in Wikipedia.  Your premise is incorrect -- there is a copyright problem here, because your employer is claiming copyright in the material on its website and, as an employee, you do not have the right to waive their claims.  Conceivably, you could get your company to place portions of its website in the public domain (or, at least, make it available for re-use under an appropriate license).  If you wish to take this route, the best source of information on how to do it will be Wikipedia talk:Copyright problems.  You can also ask a question at WP:THQ.  I hope this response has been helpful.  NewYorkActuary (talk) 13:36, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

16:05:43, 19 April 2017 review of submission by Ravenloches
In attempting to create an entry for The Art Sherpa, I received a response saying that my entry read more like an advertisement. I can certainly see this so I'm hoping to get some guidance in fixing the direction of the entry so it can be available for anyone find the artist and make sure it meets the guidelines. This is all very new to me, I've never created anything like this online. The coding areas look daunting but I'm hoping to make this entry so other artists like me can get information on someone who has been very influential in rediscovering my passion for art. Thanks for your help. Ravenloches (talk) 16:05, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, Ravensloches. Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia.  I've re-written your draft to remove the promotional, advertorial and unencyclopedic material.  Feel free to revert my changes if you do not approve of them.  But even if you do approve them, you will still need to demonstrate that the subject has received in-depth coverage from reliable sources that are independent of her.  You might find WP:NARTIST helpful reading, as well as WP:GNG and WP:Reliable sources.  I hope this response has been helpful.  If you have any questions, feel free to ask.  NewYorkActuary (talk) 16:26, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

19:28:54, 19 April 2017 review of submission by 192.112.102.254
Hi, I entered an article a while ago (3/24/17) entitled Kitchen Witchcraft. Originally, I was editing a stub, but the stub was deleted. So, I simply made a whole new article. Unfortunately, a month after my initial submission (4/19/17), I still see no changes in my article. It has not been uploaded, approved, or rejected. It's still listed as a draft.

I was just wondering if anyone has looked at this article or if there's a specific problem with it that has resulted in this situation. Is there some reason that the article has not been approved or rejected yet?

Thank you.

192.112.102.254 (talk) 19:28, 19 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Reply - There is a very long backlog here, and the few volunteers good enough to review articles in this space may take some time to get to your article. As a brief review, the deletion review of the stub specifically stated that you needed to provide third-party sources (specifically those outside the practice). While I do not necessarily agree with that opinion, it is unlikely the page will pass through AFC without the use of third-party sources as defined by that AFD, specifically those analyzing or historically recording the practice from outside its field. Isingness (talk) 23:40, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

19:38:44, 19 April 2017 review of submission by Nagarajan08
Hello, I created an article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Darez_Ahamed about a civil servant in India who has won the Indian Prime Minister's Award for Excellence, and belongs in the category https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Indian_Administrative_Service_officers. It has been rejected as not being notable; I believe it should be looked in from an Indian context and the person is notable here. Can someone help whether this is a notability issue or edit issue?


 * Reply - I do not see where your entry has been rejected. Would you mind please directing us to the proper url? Isngness (talk) 23:52, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
 * If your question is why Draft:Darez Ahamed was removed from Category:Indian Administrative Service officers, drafts are not allowed in mainspace categories. The page can be categorized if and when the draft is accepted. --Worldbruce (talk) 21:35, 20 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Reply  Thanks: my question is, why the draft is not accepted Draft:Darez_Ahamed, since the person is quite notable.
 * Hello, Nagarajan. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia.  The reason your draft has not yet been accepted by us is because you never submitted it for review.  If wish to do so now, please let us know.  NewYorkActuary (talk) 13:33, 21 April 2017 (UTC)