Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2017 April 5

= April 5 =

09:03:17, 5 April 2017 review of submission by SaeedUllah Afridi
SaeedUllah Afridi (talk) 09:03, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Reply - Given the draft that I see you have created in your edit history, I suggest reading the following policy as to why your page is not likely to be accepted vis a vis the AFC process: NOTSOCIALNETWORK. Isingness (talk) 16:25, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

17:36:35, 5 April 2017 review of submission by 208.186.60.47
208.186.60.47 (talk) 17:36, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

I am curious. I had an article denied because "it used copyrighted material". That is true. But the material was quoted and the source given in the preceding sentence. This is the standard way material is referenced in scientific papers (e.g. According to so-and-so: "quoted stuff"). It appears has different rules. I would be glad to correct the problem. The quote was from the official description of an award. It cannot be paraphrased. What does it need? I could add a footnote detailing the source, which I had already given. Or, should I get permission from the copyright owner (i.e. Usenix) to use the quote? Or?

Thanks much, in advance, for your time to answer this.

Deborah Scherrrer

208.186.60.47 (talk) 17:38, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

I am curious. I had an article denied because "it used copyrighted material". That is true. But the material was quoted and the source given in the preceding sentence. This is the standard way material is referenced in scientific literature (e.g. According to so-and-so:  "quoted stuff"). It appears Wikipedia has different rules. That's ok. I would be glad to correct the problem. The quote was from the official description of an award. It cannot be paraphrased. What does it need? I could add a footnote detailing the source, which I had already given. Or, should I get permission from the copyright owner (i.e. Usenix) to use the quote? Or should I use the ? Or?

Thanks much, in advance, for your time to answer this.

Deborah Scherrrer

208.186.60.47 (talk) 17:46, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Correct to my previous question. The quote that "was copyrighted material" was referenced with a footnote in the sentence previous to it. So, the source was named, it was pointed to on the web with a footnote, and it was quoted. I don't know how else to give credit than through these mechanisms. So, I really do need help on understanding this.

Thanks again! Deborah Scherrer

Sorry, my bad. Here is the draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Software_Tools_Users_Group_(STUG)

Deborah Scherrer
 * Reply - I've reviewed the article submission you created, and it does not appear that it is cited properly either by Wikipedia or academic standards. That said, specific academic citation practices aren't what are generally followed here, so there is no need to discuss that. To answer your specific question, see this document for more information on how to cite properly on Wikipedia: Citing sources . Isingness (talk) 18:56, 5 April 2017 (UTC)