Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2017 December 15

= December 15 =

00:39:46, 15 December 2017 review of submission by Cismithjr44
Chuck Smith (talk) 00:39, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

04:55:06, 15 December 2017 review of submission by InTheFog
I noticed that this page didn't exist when trying to look up the artist after reading reviews of his debut album. There was a previously rejected draft from June, which I modified rather than writing a new one. I chose to add links to articles to demonstrate notability rather than adding a ton of new content, but I'm wondering if I should also try to get more information on the page; the NYT article has some biographical details that are not yet represented. Would it make sense to spend more time on it, or should I just wait until it makes it through the AFC queue? InTheFog (talk) 04:55, 15 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi . Theoretically it shouldn't make a difference: as long as the subject is notable and the article doesn't violate any of our core content policies, it should be accepted. However, in practice, I'd always advise people to keep their AfC submissions short and to the point. Reviewers are looking for a concise statement of why the subject is notable and a list of sources that substantiate this fact. New editors often fall in to the trap of adding lots of intricate detail that distracts from this and delays the process. So if anything I would edit Draft:Moses Sumney down a bit. You can always expand it after it has been accepted. –&#8239;Joe (talk) 13:48, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

07:59:00, 15 December 2017 review of submission by Realsunshine
Realsunshine (talk) 07:59, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

13:30:37, 15 December 2017 review of submission by Ushasubri
Ushasubri (talk) 13:30, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

my article was rejected due to not providing notable references. could you pls tell me how I can provide information on this organization and its services to create awareness among general public. Ushasubri (talk) 13:30, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi . Wikipedia aims to cover topics that have already gained significant attention from the world at large. Creating awareness of something among the general public is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia, which is not for advertising, promotion, or public relations. --Worldbruce (talk) 07:17, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Request on 22:22:35, 15 December 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Geneva VA
Hello,

I have been trying to get wiki pages set up for two authors who are both best sellers, however no matter how much I link to interviews, mentions, articles, etc., I am being told the notability is not where it needs to be. I have looked over other author wiki pages, and I'm not sure how much more I can add in. Any detailed help would be appreciated, as the generated responses are not providing me with the information needed to get these published. Thank you!

Geneva VA (talk) 22:22, 15 December 2017 (UTC)


 * pending paid editing disclosure, see User talk:Geneva VA. --Worldbruce (talk) 07:11, 16 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your disclosure. Writing autobiographies is strongly discouraged because, however well-intentioned the person is, the inherent conflict of interest makes it all but impossible to write a neutral, verifiable autobiography. Conflict of interest is as much or more of a problem when an editor is paid to write a biography about someone else. You asked whether biographies should be written by fans. Fans at least don't have a personal or financial conflict of interest, but being fans they do come to the topic with a bias. Ideally biographies should be written by disinterested Wikipedians whose sole concern is what is best for the encyclopedia.


 * Wikipedia is forever a work in progress. It contains high quality content and low quality content. The existence of articles that do not meet Wikipedia's policies and guidelines does not mean they have been in any way "approved". It may simply mean that no one has gotten around to deleting them yet. They are not a good excuse to create more such articles. The essay WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS may help you understand why. If you wish to learn from example articles, be sure to use only Wikipedia's best.


 * If you are sure the authors meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines (Shakespeare, Edgar Allan Poe, and Ernest Hemingway do, most popular authors do not), the best thing to do is request at Requested articles that articles be written about them. In your request, provide links to independent, reliable sources that contain substantial information about them. This appears to be an area you're having trouble with. No blogs or fansites; no IMDb or Wikipedia; no author, publisher, or bookseller pages that have an interest in promoting the author; no interviews that are merely the subject talking about themselves; no brief announcements or passing mentions. --Worldbruce (talk) 07:34, 17 December 2017 (UTC)