Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2017 December 9

= December 9 =

Request on 08:56:24, 9 December 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Editor0088
Soo I am confused..

What is a credible page exactly. Since ALL content online is "user" generated, even this one. So you are you referencing "credible news sources like CNN, or FOX News?

Since I am new to this process, can you list and example of a "credible source" if it's not a "metal" version of this one?

Editor0088 (talk) 03:46, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi Editor0088. Encyclopaedia Metallum (metal-archives.com) and discogs.com, being user-generated, are not reliable sources and should not be used as references. If thousands of articles reference them, then you can help to improve thousands of articles by finding replacement sources that are reliable. Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources has some suggestions. --Worldbruce (talk) 18:32, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Editor0088 (talk) 08:56, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
 * What Wikipedia means by user-generated can be found in the guideline Identifying reliable sources. Wikipedia doesn't use the term "credible", but news organizations like CNN and Fox News are generally considered to be reliable for facts about music, musicians, and recordings. They are not user-generated, they are written by trained, professional, credentialed journalists, whose work is subject to editorial oversight and to battalions of fact checkers and lawyers. The publishers have a reputation for accuracy and a history of printing corrections when they get something wrong.
 * Another example of a reliable source on the subject of music is Rolling Stone. WikiProject Albums/Sources lists hundreds of other sources that the community has generally judged to be reliable. The list is not exhaustive. A source may be reliable even if it isn't on the list. Do not, however, use a source (like discogs or Encyclopaedia Metallum) from the "Sources to avoid" section. They are not reliable because they are user-generated - anybody can write anything there. They have no reputation for fact checking or accuracy. See previous discussions at WP:RSN. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:35, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

09:50:45, 9 December 2017 review of submission by Poonkulanji
varghese kurian (talk) 09:50, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Your article appears to have been accepted. Can we help you any further? ! dave  09:54, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

10:37:00, 9 December 2017 review of submission by Semantron
Hello, I hope somebody here can help me. I created a new article basically translated it from Serbian to English, here is the link (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Saint_Joanikije_Devički), very detailed and without mistakes. The problem is as I see that my references are not correct or reliable as the one who should approve say. But they are as my first reference I have redirected to the Wikipedia article written in Serbian language and have told that I translated all from there which can be saw and checked any time, the second is from some book on the internet about the Saint that I written in that article. So what should I do now to prove them that all that is in the article is correct ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Semantron (talk • contribs) 10:37, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi . You also asked this question at the Teahouse, and it has been answered there. To that answer I would add:


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 * The Serbian Wikipedia article must be removed from the references section because Wikipedia, being user-generated, is not a reliable source. The prayer to St. Joanikije doesn't support any of the draft's contents, so it should be moved out of the references section - to an "External links" section at the bottom, or removed entirely.


 * I've added a reliable scholarly source to a "Further reading" section, you may be able to use it as a reference. Other potential sources are, , , and . If you rewrite the draft using these sources, it is likely to be accepted. It would be helpful if you used inline citations to show which source(s) each statement in the draft comes from. See Help:Referencing for beginners for more information. --Worldbruce (talk) 13:48, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Request on 14:08:11, 9 December 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by TRIVEDIYASH95
TRIVEDIYASH95 (talk) 14:08, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

14:15:34, 9 December 2017 review of submission by DillFredino89
Please could you assist and give feedback DillFredino89 (talk) 14:15, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi The draft is in the pool to be reviewed. You will receive further feedback as part of the next review. Do not remove prior AfC reviews or reviewer comments from the draft. They will be removed automatically if and when it is accepted. With the current backlog you can expect it to be reviewed by early February 2018. Meanwhile I've left a welcome basket of useful links on your talk page. Asking about the draft every day will only slow the process down. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:52, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

15:01:54, 9 December 2017 review of submission by Faunevita
I recently created a wikipedia page for Laura Briggs. I am wondering how I can make sure the page is indexed and will show up in google searches? Thank you!

Faunevita (talk) 15:01, 9 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi Whether and when Google and other search engines index a page is ultimately up to those companies, not Wikipedia. To the extent that it is possible to influence the timing from the Wikipedia end, you should not do so. Securing preferential treatment would be regarded as a "black hat" activity. However, you can indirectly make everything in Wikipedia happen more quickly and smoothly by pitching in and reducing backlogs that compete for limited volunteer time. See Community portal for how to help. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:54, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

16:25:56, 9 December 2017 review of submission by 2606:6000:6006:3400:413D:CE07:F11E:29FD
2606:6000:6006:3400:413D:CE07:F11E:29FD (talk) 16:25, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi,

How can I start writing on my wikipedia page to get this party started?

BR Gustav
 * Party? What party?  You mean the one taking place at WP:Your first article?  Sounds like a lot of fun.  Happy editing!  NewYorkActuary (talk) 16:36, 9 December 2017 (UTC)